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I’m my ifbb training buddy outlined a cycle for me for lean mass gain. It seems like a lot to me and wanted to get y’all’s input.
I’m 6’3, 235, 14% bf
The cycle is
Test C
Npp
Eq
Primo
Turinabol
Weeks 1-6
Test 500/ week
Primo 600/ week
EQ 400/ week
NPP 150 eod
Turinabol 40-80mg ed
Weeks 7-12
Test 500/ week
Primo 600/ week
EQ 400/ week
NPP 150 eod

I was thinking of dropping eq and lowering the test to my persribed normal 200/ week.

I have read a lot of data on keeping test low to avoid exaggerating sides of the other compounds.

But would love to get as much input before diving into the stack.

I have arimidex clomiphene, Nola sec and hcg for pct.
 
Is this serious or some kind of a joke? You were recommended to run this much? This is far past overkill to say the least, wow. Even the PCT aspect, wow, this really really troubling to see. This is a great cycle if you want to really really hurt yourself. If that is the intended goal, then this would be spot on but otherwise, this is pretty bad to ever recommend.
 
This is pretty bad and another indication of why people should never listen to "IFBB" pros on cycle advice... It is just a very very dangerous and bad look... I have no idea where this person is getting their advice but its fkng horrible..

HCG for a pct?? wtf??

I would keep the test lower and pick maybe 3 total compounds.. it SOOO damn unnecessary to run this much shit man... you have to know that in some sort of way, even if you are newer to this...

how many cycles have you even ran?
 
This is exactly why I posted this here. I am far from being an expert. It sounded ridiculous to me but he kept telling me “trust me bro”.

I have done a good amount of cycles starting with just test, then adding one other compound all the way up to the most amount of compounds being, test teen with dbol kicker.

I guess the better question would be, should I run test and primo or npp or eq? I’m looking for the most manageable sides, some gains while I diet to lean out more?
 
Congratulations on finding this site and connecting with quality guidance.

Study Dylan's video and post any questions.

And remember, this is a marathon, not a sprint...
 
well easily the lightest on sides is primo and that has always been my favorite... REMEMBER that a little bit goes a long way when it comes to anabolics brother.. fucking clown telling you to trust him should be fucking ashamed of himself, seriously.. i DESPISE jerk offs like that.. they are one of the main reasons people get hurt... "trust me bro" my ass! a really great stack, with tremendous results and minimal sides would be like this..

1-12 test cyp 300 mg week
1-12 primo 500-600 mg week
1-14 aromasin (if or as needed
1-12 GW-501516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 Rad-140 (TESTOLONE) 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 ACP-105 (VASCULINE) 20 mg day… split doses… 10 mg in the a.m. and 10 mg 4-6 hours later

for the best quality sarms visit either https://sarms.forsale or https://umbrellalabs.is
9-14 anavar 50 mg day
9-14 n2guard

pct 15-18

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well… N2Guard plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on…N2Guard helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.



clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20
aromasin (adjust as needed)
N2Guard
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
This is exactly why I posted this here. I am far from being an expert. It sounded ridiculous to me but he kept telling me “trust me bro”.

I have done a good amount of cycles starting with just test, then adding one other compound all the way up to the most amount of compounds being, test teen with dbol kicker.

I guess the better question would be, should I run test and primo or npp or eq? I’m looking for the most manageable sides, some gains while I diet to lean out more?
these cycles are for pros and people who don't care about their health
 
Thats an extremely rough cycle. @stevesmi and @DylanGemelli have been around on forums since the way back, as have I so we have seen it all and all ran stupid cycles so please listen to the everyone, especially the "vets" like us that know all about how bad this can be! I would heed the advice and tone it down, which it sounds like you already know!

I would also recommend checking out @FinestGears if you are looking to get the best possible quality and overall experience
 
I have witnessed cycles like this so many times over the years and as I have seen more, experienced more and gained much more knowledge, I have to agree with others that this is just far too much. I do like @DylanGemelli 's layout but another perspective from me would be to lighten it even further and just go with something more simple and shorter cycle with short esters. I like the test and npp option myself and perhaps a lighter oral like anavar or you could look at adding sarms or peptides here. I believe in less is more and you can certainly get a lot out of a cycle like that. I would look at @FinestGears to get the best products as well!
 
Use Dylan’s cycle layout. Only use our forum approved sponsored sources like sarms.forsale and umbrella labs!
 
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