So....I got hold of some tbol

[SpikedEggnog]

Bro it depends. Were these people using test with tbol? Also remember in the 50s testosterone doping. Which is why dbol was created for American athletes. Testosterone has been around Lot longer then tbol and you can easily say that Olympic athletes are on testosterone first and foremost. They aren't doing oral only cycles.

 

[Tazz]

its like this if you type in tbol libido half the info says horny as f**k half says killed my libido??? this is why I am so confused, apparently the east germans that were being doped in the 80s that dominated the Olympics were spiked with tbol and the were more bothered about f**cking than training???

just run it with test and u'll be fine, UCthefreak i bet is where u got that info from


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[lostweightmuscle]

iT WAS WHERE i GOT THAT FROM YEAH DUDE, SO WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF TBOL PLUS TEST OVER TEST ALONE PLEASE?

Sorry for caps

 

[ApexVallen]

They were horny because of the testosterone, not because of the turinibol.

The tbol will basically help you make gains. Your first cycle should always be test on its own so you can see how your body reacts to higher than normal test levels. If you're going to do an oral on your first cycle anyway, tbol is probably a good choice. It wont bloat you up like dbol and the gains will most likely be more keepable. The downside of course is liver toxicity.
Make sure you do the PCT suggested to you by Dylan. Seriously, its the most important part of a cycle. Have that shit on hand before you start anything so if something goes wrong you have it there, ready to go.
Keep in mind if you got your tbol from 'some guy at the gym', there could be anything in there.

 

[Tazz]

apex said it best ^


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[SpikedEggnog]

iT WAS WHERE i GOT THAT FROM YEAH DUDE, SO WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF TBOL PLUS TEST OVER TEST ALONE PLEASE?

Sorry for caps

Why would you send all caps then say sorry. Why not just edit the caps lol

 

[SpikedEggnog]

They were horny because of the testosterone, not because of the turinibol.

The tbol will basically help you make gains. Your first cycle should always be test on its own so you can see how your body reacts to higher than normal test levels. If you're going to do an oral on your first cycle anyway, tbol is probably a good choice. It wont bloat you up like dbol and the gains will most likely be more keepable. The downside of course is liver toxicity.
Make sure you do the PCT suggested to you by Dylan. Seriously, its the most important part of a cycle. Have that shit on hand before you start anything so if something goes wrong you have it there, ready to go.
Keep in mind if you got your tbol from 'some guy at the gym', there could be anything in there.

Yes and no. I agree They are horny because of test but tbol is also the cause. Same as dbol. It will make you horny as piss. But it's the synergy of it with Test. So yes and no.

 

[Guarionex]

So I add test then? which ester?

To quote Dwanye "The Rock" Johnson, "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ESTER TEST IS!!!!!!!"

Spend some time here in the forum, get yourself educated in AAS, learn how to properly run a cycle (something that cannot be explained in one thread or post), work on your diet and training routine, and maybe run some SARMS. The Triple Stack from SARMSX will get you some fantastic gains and help you drop some bodyfat (provided you follow proper nutrition and training).

Best of luck

 

[Guarionex]

Im not dismissing any ones advice after all that's why I am here I am after advice, I am looking for options I have done some research and opinions differ, I have watched a lot of video especially dylans the information is good....but I see videos on there from different people saying its fine to run an oral alone.

Please don't dismiss me as some no brain, thats why I am asking the question before I started, because the internet is full of differing advice I am around 15% BF and have put on ok size I have a bit of excess skin around my stomach but I look like the picture below when pumped in the Gym, I know I am not all that but I have been training hard for a year,....I am here looking for opinions and advice not to say I am right and you are wrong....I don't know much, thats why I am asking
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Thank you for your help so far please continue

Ok bro, from the pic it looks like you get a good pump at the gym. Keep up the good work.

Now, why oral-only cycles are BAD? All Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS for short, Tbol is one of them) WILL cause suppression of natural test production. AAS cause suppression, yet they cannot replace test. You need test. That's why all cycles have test as their base. Without test, not only you will loose ALL you gains from the cycle, the low test condition will set you back further than when you started the cycle, not to mention you will feel depressed, low energy, and likely to gain bodyfat.

Furthermore, oral AAS are processed through the liver, but the liver is overstressed with oral drugs. They all need to be altered to resist the enzimatic breakdwown the liver creates upon consumption. This liver overstress, if abuse WILL CAUSE permanent liver damage. There are protocols for oral steroids. Get yourself aquainted with them.

Lastly, improperly running cycles, specially at your age is just plain silly. Ready for some tough love.... here it is, you know better than to do something against the advice of those who know more, specially those you came for said advice.

Go ahead a run some SARMS. You'll get the results you are looking for without the problems of AAS. Get the idea of running an oral-only cycle out of your head, and keep training and eating properly.

Best of luck

 

[Guarionex]

its like this if you type in tbol libido half the info says horny as f**k half says killed my libido??? this is why I am so confused, apparently the east germans that were being doped in the 80s that dominated the Olympics were spiked with tbol and the were more bothered about f**cking than training???

And both statements are correct. When you first consume Tbol, or any AAS for that matter, the synergy of Tbol and your natural test is amazing. As your natural test diminishes due to suppression, guess what happen? You guessed it, kiss your libido, your gains, and your health goodbye.

 

[44YOGearHead]

good lord man... just flat out stop right now... have you been reading anything in here or paying attention to anything.. i mean this is about as bad as it gets...

1. what in the world kind of garbage pct is that? that is nowhere near the proper pct... take that pct xtreme product and wad it up in a roll and use it as toilet paper because its good for nothing else beyond that...

2. ORAL ONLY? bro, seriously... i have covered this so much that i want to pull my hair out... please watch this video and understand that it is the worst and stupidest type of cycle you can run... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n7AFV4HBSg

3. you act as though its some big deal to get a hold of tbol... you have sources at your finger tips here to get whatever...

4. a year of working out is NOTHING... you need many years of training to use steroids...

5. what is your height and weight?

DO NOT run this horrible cycle or you will be very sorry, i guarantee it

This is why I would seriously fuck someone up over Dylan... straight up no nonsense truth and nothing but the fuckin' truth. You realize how many people elsewhere would let you just go down this road ill prepared and watch you wreck yourself? Care and concern is what differentiates this forum from all the other swill troughs. I personally am thankful for finding Dylan via Youtube, subsequently leading me here to ISARMS and all the great people here. Even at my age and stats I find myself in awe daily at the entire spectrum of things AAS/SARMs/PEDs related both good and bad always walking away better informed and better capable of assisting others NOT to step on their dicks avoiding the bumps and bruises of painful lessons AAS related.

 

[RickRock]

You've been given some good advice here, and everyone is just trying to steer you down the right path. I sincerely hope you implement this advice and do the right thing. Trust me, you'll be glad you did.

 

[DylanGemelli]

To quote Dwanye "The Rock" Johnson, "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT ESTER TEST IS!!!!!!!"

Spend some time here in the forum, get yourself educated in AAS, learn how to properly run a cycle (something that cannot be explained in one thread or post), work on your diet and training routine, and maybe run some SARMS. The Triple Stack from SARMSX will get you some fantastic gains and help you drop some bodyfat (provided you follow proper nutrition and training).

Best of luck

Know your role, shut your mouth and LISTEN... LOLLL i love it that you quoted the rock... some of the best lines you will hear in a lifetime...


on the serious side.. great post bro... i agree completely... there is a lot of misunderstanding going on here and thats okay... many of us had bad guidance or were misled at one point or another... the key here is to learn from all mistakes or misinformation and utilize it to their advantage... you have to understand that you cant be a person that just wants to hear what YOU WANT and you need to appreciate that someone actually takes the time to tell you what you NEED to hear...

 

[DylanGemelli]

This is why I would seriously fuck someone up over Dylan... straight up no nonsense truth and nothing but the fuckin' truth. You realize how many people elsewhere would let you just go down this road ill prepared and watch you wreck yourself? Care and concern is what differentiates this forum from all the other swill troughs. I personally am thankful for finding Dylan via Youtube, subsequently leading me here to ISARMS and all the great people here. Even at my age and stats I find myself in awe daily at the entire spectrum of things AAS/SARMs/PEDs related both good and bad always walking away better informed and better capable of assisting others NOT to step on their dicks avoiding the bumps and bruises of painful lessons AAS related.

straight up love you bro... a true warrior and loyal friend... i bust my ass all day, everyday, and most know this about me, to help and save so many people... i take a lot of shit in the process, i have to be patient with a lot of absurdity, i get people who try to make me look bad because they know i tell it like it is, etc.. all of that bull shit sucks but to me, its nothing because i know that i am doing something special for everyone each and every day...

i made a lot of mistakes in my younger years, some very severe that cost me parts of my life i cant get back but i used that to my advantage, to grow into a person that i always had within but could not let out.. i prayed day in and day out for a second chance and for God to let me utilize the talents and abilities that i was given and because i got that chance, i take it as serious as one could take anything and i hope that resonates in what i do each and every day...

 

[44YOGearHead]

straight up love you bro... a true warrior and loyal friend... i bust my ass all day, everyday, and most know this about me, to help and save so many people... i take a lot of shit in the process, i have to be patient with a lot of absurdity, i get people who try to make me look bad because they know i tell it like it is, etc.. all of that bull shit sucks but to me, its nothing because i know that i am doing something special for everyone each and every day...

i made a lot of mistakes in my younger years, some very severe that cost me parts of my life i cant get back but i used that to my advantage, to grow into a person that i always had within but could not let out.. i prayed day in and day out for a second chance and for God to let me utilize the talents and abilities that i was given and because i got that chance, i take it as serious as one could take anything and i hope that resonates in what i do each and every day...

Bro you know where I place you in terms of respect, friendship and esteem. We all know that when you're doing something good, the haters are gonna come out the wood work to try and dissuade others from listening... but as you said the good resonates from within you and anybody with an open mind and attentive ear will see the truth in your word and deeds.

IF NOT... https://youtu.be/yXqzB9GgV-w

 

[DylanGemelli]

Bro you know where I place you in terms of respect, friendship and esteem. We all know that when you're doing something good, the haters are gonna come out the wood work to try and dissuade others from listening... but as you said the good resonates from within you and anybody with an open mind and attentive ear will see the truth in your word and deeds.

IF NOT... https://youtu.be/yXqzB9GgV-w

LMFAO! that was awesome and i know you most certainly would do that for me and that means a lot man... i would probably go about it a different way with the grizzly but im not your size... mine would be more of a stick and move type where you would probably go toe to toe LOL