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Sarmsx vs Sarms1

Sylvan9595

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Hello Dylan, why are you now with sarmsx and not any longer with sarms1??? Both sides say the products of the other company are bad and underdosed. Whats going on with that whole story dylan???
 

RickRock

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Hello Dylan, why are you now with sarmsx and not any longer with sarms1??? Both sides say the products of the other company are bad and underdosed. Whats going on with that whole story dylan???

Dylan and I BOTH worked for sarms1 as reps at one time. In the beginning they had excellent products with great results. I used them myself. Then the product quality went to complete shit, and we were thrown right in the middle of all of it, left to answer questions and concerns from some very pissed off customers. So Dylan left, and I followed. We both did not want associated with that subpar company and the bad reputation they were creating for themselves.

Dylan started up the forum as administrator and asked me to help run it and sarmsx came on board as a sponsor after verifying they were only the Best quality available. That is exactly the truth and whole truth of the matter.
 

RickRock

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But why whats the problem??? Why do they hate each other so much???

There is no "hate", but sarms1 did some shady shit after we left in retaliation. They back door banned me and Dylan and started posting things on the forum from our accounts that we never wrote. They even put my personal information along with others that left (fed up with their bullshit) up on their forum for everyone to see. So, as I'm sure you can imagine this is not something Dylan and I took too kindly to.
 

Tazz

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sarms1 changed for the worse and started pushing bullshit products and still is, sarmsx is the only real trustworthy sarm provider currently
 

BraedenB

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Member
I love what you guys say and respect what you do however it does make it difficult to plan stacks when a couple years back we're told "buy hcgenerate it'll help prevent shutdown in cycle" "you need n2guard it should be ran year round" "anavar can do great things when ran alone" just lotsa controversy, I know it's a learning process and I think now everything is all setup and you guys have a solid understanding of what works and what doesn't, I've just been watching Dylan for years and his opinions change and it makes it difficult for us, the viewers when we don't know why, so thanks for clearing that up with sarms1.
 

bigbassturd

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Member
I love what you guys say and respect what you do however it does make it difficult to plan stacks when a couple years back we're told "buy hcgenerate it'll help prevent shutdown in cycle" "you need n2guard it should be ran year round" "anavar can do great things when ran alone" just lotsa controversy, I know it's a learning process and I think now everything is all setup and you guys have a solid understanding of what works and what doesn't, I've just been watching Dylan for years and his opinions change and it makes it difficult for us, the viewers when we don't know why, so thanks for clearing that up with sarms1.
If you've been watching him for years like you say, my question to you is this: why would he now promote, support, or in any way endorse a certain company over another, when for the first time in years he now owns and runs the entire site and makes the rules? It's well known, public information who runs and owns this site, and with a name and reputation to uphold, why would he bring in anyone but the best quality sources of products and information? For the first time, the tables are turned, and he is directly responsible for what is shared, and doesn't have to answer to someone else or be bound to any company over another. He gets to choose, and considering his affiliation with this community, he'd be killing his own reputation if he brought in shitty products, companies, or staff members.

The higher ranking guys here have proven track records of both knowledge and integrity, and wouldn't have been brought on board otherwise. Some of them formerly represented companies that have since gone to shit, including myself. Though I'm not in any way a rep or member of any staff here, I'll be the first to tell you that this place has literally the best source of products and info you will find right now. You can search my name on many forums and you will see that through the years I used to be part of several different staffs for both sarms and supplements, including NTBM, Ag-Guys, Unique, CEM, and SarmSearch. At the times I was involved with these companies, they provided both excellent quality and advice, and conducted business with integrity and with the customer as the number one priority.

However, as with most sources in this game, pride cometh before the fall, and I moved away from them when I saw that good business practices were being abandoned in favor of greed, and the product quality always suffered soon after, followed by the customer base who had built up trust in them. This is also the case with the staff and reps here, as nobody worth a shit wants their good name and opinion they work hard to establish discredited by a company who let greed destroy their business practice, so they move on to greener pastures and hope the good bros follow them and don't get caught up in the shitshow.

I represent only myself these days and can tell you I wouldn't be here if I didn't fully trust, respect, and recommend the sources and staff that have been brought together here. It would be a waste of time for me otherwise, since I have no reason or incentive to be here aside from a passion for fitness and helping less informed guys on their paths.
 

DylanGemelli

Founding Member
Super Moderator
I love what you guys say and respect what you do however it does make it difficult to plan stacks when a couple years back we're told "buy hcgenerate it'll help prevent shutdown in cycle" "you need n2guard it should be ran year round" "anavar can do great things when ran alone" just lotsa controversy, I know it's a learning process and I think now everything is all setup and you guys have a solid understanding of what works and what doesn't, I've just been watching Dylan for years and his opinions change and it makes it difficult for us, the viewers when we don't know why, so thanks for clearing that up with sarms1.


i can absolutely see what your saying but you need to understand something... just because a company is reputable at the time does not mean they stay that way.. i could just keep my mouth shut and not say a word about anything to try to save any sort of questioning on reliability of information OR i could risk being questioned by changing stance... as a person built on morals and ethics, i go with option 2... i cant control when a company changes patterns on things, with quality of product and flat out rape on pricing... not only did n2bm decide to switch formulas on many products, costing them far less to produce but they also doubled and tripled pricing... i wont promote that type of behavior not will i promote sarms1, who started out with such a good product only to change things on everyone after only a year or so of doing so wonderful... when people behave unethically and use good people to promote and eventually make them the scape goats, im sorry but im going to let everyone know regardless of how it may harm me later... hopefully you can understand and respect that... if not, all i can do is apologize
 

DylanGemelli

Founding Member
Super Moderator
If you've been watching him for years like you say, my question to you is this: why would he now promote, support, or in any way endorse a certain company over another, when for the first time in years he now owns and runs the entire site and makes the rules? It's well known, public information who runs and owns this site, and with a name and reputation to uphold, why would he bring in anyone but the best quality sources of products and information? For the first time, the tables are turned, and he is directly responsible for what is shared, and doesn't have to answer to someone else or be bound to any company over another. He gets to choose, and considering his affiliation with this community, he'd be killing his own reputation if he brought in shitty products, companies, or staff members.

The higher ranking guys here have proven track records of both knowledge and integrity, and wouldn't have been brought on board otherwise. Some of them formerly represented companies that have since gone to shit, including myself. Though I'm not in any way a rep or member of any staff here, I'll be the first to tell you that this place has literally the best source of products and info you will find right now. You can search my name on many forums and you will see that through the years I used to be part of several different staffs for both sarms and supplements, including NTBM, Ag-Guys, Unique, CEM, and SarmSearch. At the times I was involved with these companies, they provided both excellent quality and advice, and conducted business with integrity and with the customer as the number one priority.

However, as with most sources in this game, pride cometh before the fall, and I moved away from them when I saw that good business practices were being abandoned in favor of greed, and the product quality always suffered soon after, followed by the customer base who had built up trust in them. This is also the case with the staff and reps here, as nobody worth a shit wants their good name and opinion they work hard to establish discredited by a company who let greed destroy their business practice, so they move on to greener pastures and hope the good bros follow them and don't get caught up in the shitshow.

I represent only myself these days and can tell you I wouldn't be here if I didn't fully trust, respect, and recommend the sources and staff that have been brought together here. It would be a waste of time for me otherwise, since I have no reason or incentive to be here aside from a passion for fitness and helping less informed guys on their paths.

i appreciate this in the highest regard bro... you know, you have been with me for nearly 5 years now and we have been through quite a bit and you did go away for awhile and i never blamed you once because i nearly did as well... there was so much bull shit being given to us, lies etc... unfortunately you cannot always see this at the right time but the fortunate side of this and that it all eventually rears its ugly head... i appreciate everything you said and everything you have done bro...
 

bigbassturd

Member
Member
i appreciate this in the highest regard bro... you know, you have been with me for nearly 5 years now and we have been through quite a bit and you did go away for awhile and i never blamed you once because i nearly did as well... there was so much bull shit being given to us, lies etc... unfortunately you cannot always see this at the right time but the fortunate side of this and that it all eventually rears its ugly head... i appreciate everything you said and everything you have done bro...
No problem man, it's always been about a better method and a better product, no matter what it takes. Even if that meant going away from it all for awhile so I could look myself in the mirror and sleep at night, I knew in the long run we'd all end up somewhere where our opinions and integrity were valued again, and greed and corruption wouldn't be a factor.

It's been a long ride for sure but we're just getting started. As always, I'll keep grinding and I'm always here for whatever I need to do. Even the behind the scenes stuff has always been a pleasure.
 

BraedenB

Member
Member
Ya I just had no clue, I've been watching you for a while so I just didn't know that you were done with evo and n2bm for a while after. Good to know you're on the right track and don't have to deal with any more b.s.
 

DylanGemelli

Founding Member
Super Moderator
Ya I just had no clue, I've been watching you for a while so I just didn't know that you were done with evo and n2bm for a while after. Good to know you're on the right track and don't have to deal with any more b.s.


yeah brother... i have been away from them for nearly 2 years now... i appreciate that... its was more than b.s. but you know, even though i let it be known, i also dont like to dwell on it... they just did a lot of things and even some very personal shit that i have a hard time with honestly but its all good... no biggie... we move on and we just aim to get better everyday! im always here if you need help with anything bro
 

9th Wonder

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Ya I just had no clue, I've been watching you for a while so I just didn't know that you were done with evo and n2bm for a while after. Good to know you're on the right track and don't have to deal with any more b.s.

It's great man.. You don't deal with any BS on this forum and that's the best part. Great videos, educational content and very knowledgeable members makes this place hard to beat.
 

DylanGemelli

Founding Member
Super Moderator
It's great man.. You don't deal with any BS on this forum and that's the best part. Great videos, educational content and very knowledgeable members makes this place hard to beat.


absolutely brother.. we make it our mission to stand apart from any other forum you can find.. the information passed around on a minute to minute basis is priceless and it only gets better each and every day...
 

hertonton

New member
Member
I love what you guys say and respect what you do however it does make it difficult to plan stacks when a couple years back we're told "buy hcgenerate it'll help prevent shutdown in cycle" "you need n2guard it should be ran year round" "anavar can do great things when ran alone" just lotsa controversy, I know it's a learning process and I think now everything is all setup and you guys have a solid understanding of what works and what doesn't, I've just been watching Dylan for years and his opinions change and it makes it difficult for us, the viewers when we don't know why, so thanks for clearing that up with sarms1.

i can absolutely see what your saying but you need to understand something... just because a company is reputable at the time does not mean they stay that way.. i could just keep my mouth shut and not say a word about anything to try to save any sort of questioning on reliability of information OR i could risk being questioned by changing stance... as a person built on morals and ethics, i go with option 2... i cant control when a company changes patterns on things, with quality of product and flat out rape on pricing... not only did n2bm decide to switch formulas on many products, costing them far less to produce but they also doubled and tripled pricing... i wont promote that type of behavior not will i promote sarms1, who started out with such a good product only to change things on everyone after only a year or so of doing so wonderful... when people behave unethically and use good people to promote and eventually make them the scape goats, im sorry but im going to let everyone know regardless of how it may harm me later... hopefully you can understand and respect that... if not, all i can do is apologize

Dylan,
So that being said; I bought mk-2866 from sarms1 recently after watching a very informative and convincing video you made on youtube; giving an amazing break down of what the product is, the benefits and where to buy. Being low budget so to speak. Unless it's a harmful product; I can not afford to just throw out. You being familiar with there product; some advice/insight would be greatly appreciated. What can I expect out of this product? Hope has it changed from the product you repped in the video? Do I still need pct with it if it's not the products it was when you where repping it?
 

JackSteel

Banned
Dylan and I BOTH worked for sarms1 as reps at one time. In the beginning they had excellent products with great results. I used them myself. Then the product quality went to complete shit, and we were thrown right in the middle of all of it, left to answer questions and concerns from some very pissed off customers. So Dylan left, and I followed. We both did not want associated with that subpar company and the bad reputation they were creating for themselves.

Dylan started up the forum as administrator and asked me to help run it and sarmsx came on board as a sponsor after verifying they were only the Best quality available. That is exactly the truth and whole truth of the matter.

I was also one of the reps and it wasn't just the quality that went down, the shady shenanigans of the evolutionary forum as well as sarms1 and AGguys all started to become apparent and they may have each been separate entities but they all were fucking people over for money. Many of us followed Dylan to iSarms when we learned of what was going on. Dylan took the best of the members with him and so Evo and the rest of course try to turn the story around and say we suck. Typical of con artists.


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DylanGemelli

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Dylan,
So that being said; I bought mk-2866 from sarms1 recently after watching a very informative and convincing video you made on youtube; giving an amazing break down of what the product is, the benefits and where to buy. Being low budget so to speak. Unless it's a harmful product; I can not afford to just throw out. You being familiar with there product; some advice/insight would be greatly appreciated. What can I expect out of this product? Hope has it changed from the product you repped in the video? Do I still need pct with it if it's not the products it was when you where repping it?

i have not repped nor been affiliated with them for years bro... i cant help the fact that they have certain videos published i did for them when they were a legitimate business... they are not the first business in the history of the world that started off great and then went a different way... that happens on a daily basis with companies everywhere... i can't control that and i wouldn't have the slightest clue what to tell you about their products now man... how would i know anything? i was misled working for them so how would i know a thing now? i have made countless posts for years warning people so i cannot help it that you made the purchase... when i buy things i ALWAYS check the dates of reviews etc... i am beyond thorough looking everywhere on every purchase i make on any product...
 

hertonton

New member
Member
Yeah was looking threw videos and the web for 2 weeks checking out sarms and then came across that video you made and jumped. Guess I should have waited till I joined the forum... So you can't give me any advice on the product now? How can I test the quality of the product I have?
 

DylanGemelli

Founding Member
Super Moderator
Yeah was looking threw videos and the web for 2 weeks checking out sarms and then came across that video you made and jumped. Guess I should have waited till I joined the forum... So you can't give me any advice on the product now? How can I test the quality of the product I have?

hey bro, im not trying to be a dick but how much clearer could i make it??? how on earth would i know about their product years later? aside from the thousands of complaints people make??? im not the one to ask for testing facilities... im not going to be putting people that are very private out there.. you will have to try to find a testing lab and that will end up you costing far more than you would lose on a bottle... at least a real sarms test would but anyone can say they are testing whatever as well...
 
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