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Cycle question

Ok, lets say I want to do it the safest way and I take the cycle that you recommended me in first place. How different would it be in the long run and why? I want to learn and obviously dont do stupid things.

Another question: Is it too bad to do what I said? Wait 3 months (or more if needed) between cycles so that my body has recovered its natural hormone levels?


your body is not returning to any natural hormone levels because you have made it go haywire... like i said, cycling too young is a HUGE mistake... what you have done is completely thrown off your bodies ability to naturally grow... you are NOT even close to fully developed yet and now you have completely thrown off your hormones and your bodies understanding of this... your going to be very sorry when you get into your thirties... your in for a lot of problems... sarms only would not cause this but steroids most certainly will... see the problem is that people like you give steroids the bad name it gets with the public because you jump into this without having a clue what your doing, THEN when you get hurt everyone blames it on the steroids when its the IRRESPONSIBLE people that should be blamed.. the reckless who do this without having a clue what they are doing... however most guys your age think they know everything and do it anyway because "arnold did it" but arnold is all fucked up and i could care less what the fuck arnold did regardless... your making a large mistake and your going to learn an even harder lesson
 
your body is not returning to any natural hormone levels because you have made it go haywire... like i said, cycling too young is a HUGE mistake... what you have done is completely thrown off your bodies ability to naturally grow... you are NOT even close to fully developed yet and now you have completely thrown off your hormones and your bodies understanding of this... your going to be very sorry when you get into your thirties... your in for a lot of problems... sarms only would not cause this but steroids most certainly will... see the problem is that people like you give steroids the bad name it gets with the public because you jump into this without having a clue what your doing, THEN when you get hurt everyone blames it on the steroids when its the IRRESPONSIBLE people that should be blamed.. the reckless who do this without having a clue what they are doing... however most guys your age think they know everything and do it anyway because "arnold did it" but arnold is all fucked up and i could care less what the fuck arnold did regardless... your making a large mistake and your going to learn an even harder lesson

I dont do stuff for that kind of reason like "arnold did it", and as you said, I wasn't really aware about the point of starting at 23 was that bad, I thought it was a good age to start.. when I finish the cycle I'm in at this point, some months after pct I will take a blood test to see how my hormone levels are and see how fucked up I am. I will post the result in this thread (no matter if its a good or a bad result). The point is that if I'm fucked, make people of my age see it so that they don't make the same mistakes. Thanks for all the advices
 
You,are also missing the point. There is never a guarantee you will recover your natural levels. Since you started at such an early age you may have done some permanent damage and they may never come back. You also need to take the proper time off. 3 months isn't long enough. See my post above about pepper time off.

If you are going to run the cycle either me or Dylan laid out make sure you do take the right amount of time off


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can you link the post? I dont find it :c
thanks for all the advices
 
I dont do stuff for that kind of reason like "arnold did it", and as you said, I wasn't really aware about the point of starting at 23 was that bad, I thought it was a good age to start.. when I finish the cycle I'm in at this point, some months after pct I will take a blood test to see how my hormone levels are and see how fucked up I am. I will post the result in this thread (no matter if its a good or a bad result). The point is that if I'm fucked, make people of my age see it so that they don't make the same mistakes. Thanks for all the advices


you may or may not show now is what your not understanding... a lot of guys in their early 20's show great bloodwork NOW but not so much once you get into to your 30's... your throwing everything in your body off... what if you decide to stop using steroids? then what? your body never fully developed on its own... it has no clue what to do because it never learned in the first place... see my point?
 
can you link the post? I dont find it :c
thanks for all the advices

I guess the takeaway and the harsh words here are is we care if you get fucked up man most forums will just sell you more gear but that's not what it is here we want you to have a long productive life with a dick working like its supposed to, good sperm for babies, no embarrassing gyno or prolactin issues. so that is why the emphatical posts. its just passion coming from a good place so don't take it personal, hopefully you can steer someone else clear of a situation like this in the future
 
you may or may not show now is what your not understanding... a lot of guys in their early 20's show great bloodwork NOW but not so much once you get into to your 30's... your throwing everything in your body off... what if you decide to stop using steroids? then what? your body never fully developed on its own... it has no clue what to do because it never learned in the first place... see my point?

I see your point, of course, but don't understand it completely.. If my bloodwork is ok now and I stop using roids, why should it get bad in 10 years?

EDIT: If I ask, it's not becouse I'm questioning what you said, but becouse I want to understand it, just want to make it clear becouse I don't want to be misinterpreted
 
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I guess the takeaway and the harsh words here are is we care if you get fucked up man most forums will just sell you more gear but that's not what it is here we want you to have a long productive life with a dick working like its supposed to, good sperm for babies, no embarrassing gyno or prolactin issues. so that is why the emphatical posts. its just passion coming from a good place so don't take it personal, hopefully you can steer someone else clear of a situation like this in the future

thats the reason why I say thanks, and thank you as well, becouse I see good intentions..
 
because at your age your body is telling itself to produce more of this and more of that or that this is enuff of this. if you are putting in synthetic testosterone your body reads that and says whoa fellas we have enuff so we don't have to produce anymore. and it gets used to that little amount because it has been fooled and that's all you get. for life so then you need Viagra at 27 years old bc your system is fucked for shit you did years before that you don't even realize. this aint no jive man you are producing more natural test than 10 vials of test could ever give you
 
if it were with bad intentions we would steer you toward the sponsors here that would sell you the stuff but we are about safety and health first and foremost
 
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