Bloodwork question

[jp1957]

Got my bloodwork today.

Test dropped from from 560 to 247


Eos was high at 1.0

Almost 5 weeks into cycle

Weeks 1-3 gw, osta,mk677, nolva, Clomid,
Weeks 4-5, gw, osta, lgd,mk,lgd,rad140

While I expected some suppression, i would have thought the rad would overcome the Igd suppression.

E level a tiny bit high at 34.

The suppression is higher than I'd expected

 

[Guarionex]

RAD 140 won't elevate test.

 

[9th Wonder]

Why are you running Nolva and Clomid in the beginning of your cycle?

 

[jp1957]

To boost test

 

[Jake]

Got my bloodwork today.

Test dropped from from 560 to 247


Eos was high at 1.0

Almost 5 weeks into cycle

Weeks 1-3 gw, osta,mk677, nolva, Clomid,
Weeks 4-5, gw, osta, lgd,mk,lgd,rad140

While I expected some suppression, i would have thought the rad would overcome the Igd suppression.

E level a tiny bit high at 34.

The suppression is higher than I'd expected

you are 5 weeks into a cycle of what? PCT? What cycle were you on b4? So if I understand this.....you were on a cycle and your test was 560, you go to pct and it is 247?

 

[jp1957]

No, that was my test before starting this cycle

 

[jp1957]

The amount of suppression is surprising, so I'll probably add the Clomid and nolva back for 4 weeks to get my test raised and see what next bloods say

 

[Jake]

No, that was my test before starting this cycle

what is this cycle? PCT?

I do not see why your test would drop like that.

 

[jp1957]

The cycle is in the post, so it's the lgd, just more suppression than I'd expected

 

[MaxxPursuit]

I think it just looks confusing because you ran clomid and nolva the first few weeks so it looks like you're coming off an aas cycle into a pct and then directly into a sarms cycle. So the way I'm understanding it is you werent on an aas cycle beforehand. You were "natural" and thats what the 560 bloodwork is showing. Then you went on a sarm cycle and decided to just run clomid and nolva because of? And right now you're concerned about the suppression, correct? Its known that sarms like lgd are suppressive so slightly lower levels are expected. What about your lh and fsh levels?

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[Jake]

I think it just looks confusing because you ran clomid and nolva the first few weeks so it looks like you're coming off an aas cycle into a pct and then directly into a sarms cycle. So the way I'm understanding it is you werent on an aas cycle beforehand. You were "natural" and thats what the 560 bloodwork is showing. Then you went on a sarm cycle and decided to just run clomid and nolva because of? And right now you're concerned about the suppression, correct? Its known that sarms like lgd are suppressive so slightly lower levels are expected. What about your lh and fsh levels?

Phurious Pharma Rep

glad you figured this one out! Lost me! I still don't see why the big drop in test,especially now being on pct.

 

[jp1957]

Largely correct, the idea behind the first 3 weeks was to boost test along with the cycle. I later decided to just go to a full on bulk cycle, dropped the test booster, and added lgd and rad, and it's been awesome. I've put on some serious muscle.

But, now I understand how I've been feeling lately with the low t. Lh and fsh are within acceptable levels.(4.7/3.5)

I know the general wisdom here is that Clomid and nolva are only for pct, but that is incorrect, and within the medical community are used in place of test by some doctors. I've posted links to this in a previous thread when I was asked about it.

So I'm going to add them back, and see how next 4 weeks go.

 

[drb_iac]

Largely correct, the idea behind the first 3 weeks was to boost test along with the cycle. I later decided to just go to a full on bulk cycle, dropped the test booster, and added lgd and rad, and it's been awesome. I've put on some serious muscle.

But, now I understand how I've been feeling lately with the low t. Lh and fsh are within acceptable levels.(4.7/3.5)

I know the general wisdom here is that Clomid and nolva are only for pct, but that is incorrect, and within the medical community are used in place of test by some doctors. I've posted links to this in a previous thread when I was asked about it.

So I'm going to add them back, and see how next 4 weeks go.

You can use clomid in place of test, but not along with test. Clomid will raise a low test level by 200 or so within 2 weeks time.BUT if you start out with a natty test of 200 then clomid bringing you to 400 won't cut it.
This was discovered by accident when trying to get men's sperm count up.Not only did the count go up but so did the test. I do not do trt but after a 20 week cycle once per year I use hgh and clomid for the remainder of the year...or as my trt. Now I will be adding sarms to the mix.

 

[RickRock]

We're you on Clomid and Nolva when you had the first bloods that were higher? If so, that could explain a lot

 

[BraedenB]

Was debating adding lgd or mk 2886 to my sarms stack of nutrobal and cardarine, is this drop in test levels normal? I thought research showed that suppression was minimal (10-15%) at most? As of now I have healthy test levels, roughly around 20 in a 8-26 range. Weird to see this much of a drop?

 

[jp1957]

We're you on Clomid and Nolva when you had the first bloods that were higher? If so, that could explain a lot

No, totally natural.

 

[jp1957]

Was debating adding lgd or mk 2886 to my sarms stack of nutrobal and cardarine, is this drop in test levels normal? I thought research showed that suppression was minimal (10-15%) at most? As of now I have healthy test levels, roughly around 20 in a 8-26 range. Weird to see this much of a drop?

It's the lgd I'm sure. I wasn't expecting that big a drop either

 

[nicejoggersbro]

It's the lgd I'm sure. I wasn't expecting that big a drop either

I've read around alot and found that osta and lgd can be more suppressive then you would think. Idk if it depends on the person or maybe where you get your sarms.

 

[jp1957]

I got mine here. Hopefully one I finish cycle, pct still get me back

 

[MaxxPursuit]

I got mine here. Hopefully one I finish cycle, pct still get me back

Sarms are easy to recover from bud. Suppression is nowhere near as bad as the shutdown from gear. I wouldn't worry at all about it.

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