Next cycle dose suggestions???

[Roidrage718]

Gonna run a Test Prop / NPP / Mast cutting cycle..most likely beginning in May. Thinking either 10 or 12 weeks...Also have tbol and winny on hand as well as all AI's and PCT needed (caber, aromasin, nolva, clomid).

Update on stats as of today: 32yo, 6'0, 207 pounds, 13%bf....this will be my 4th cycle and 1st time using a nandrolone

Suggestions on the protocol?

I was thinking:

1-12 Prop 150mg M,W,F
1-12 NPP 150mg M, W, F
1-12 Mast 200mg M,W,F
7-12 winny 50mg daily along with cycle assist
1-12 Aromasin 12.5 eod (will dial it in as needed)
1-12 Proviron 50mg daily
caber .5 e3d

Figured it would be easier to keep track of pins by keeping it to the same 3 days a week instead of eod.

Questions:

Would it be overkill to kickstart with the tbol the first 4 weeks? I figure if i did that i would have 3 weeks off before the winny, but not sure if I will do this.

How long after last pin should i begin PCT which will be:

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg eod


Thanks in advance....

 

[EZ_E]

IMO you should get 10% or under in BF and pin mast & prop EOD, not an expert on NPP so I'll hand off on that.....I will also say that I used to be a big proponent of prop but I use cyp not exclusively and it's really a better option for me overall....

Other than that you're GTG

 

[Roidrage718]

Lol. Will be working towards that goal by upping cardio, ECA stacking, and diet up until May.

If not, I may save the Mast for later.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Gonna run a Test Prop / NPP / Mast cutting cycle..most likely beginning in May. Thinking either 10 or 12 weeks...Also have tbol and winny on hand as well as all AI's and PCT needed (caber, aromasin, nolva, clomid).

Update on stats as of today: 32yo, 6'0, 207 pounds, 13%bf....this will be my 4th cycle and 1st time using a nandrolone

Suggestions on the protocol?

I was thinking:

1-12 Prop 150mg M,W,F
1-12 NPP 150mg M, W, F
1-12 Mast 200mg M,W,F
7-12 winny 50mg daily along with cycle assist
1-12 Aromasin 12.5 eod (will dial it in as needed)
1-12 Proviron 50mg daily
caber .5 e3d

Figured it would be easier to keep track of pins by keeping it to the same 3 days a week instead of eod.

Questions:

Would it be overkill to kickstart with the tbol the first 4 weeks? I figure if i did that i would have 3 weeks off before the winny, but not sure if I will do this.

How long after last pin should i begin PCT which will be:

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg eod


Thanks in advance....

i really like the compounds you have picked here but some things needs tweaked with timing, dosing etc... what exactly are your goals from the cycle? two orals is really not necessary here either... let me know the main objective so i can make the necessary changes for you... the timing is off as well... your winstrol timing should be 9-14 leading into pct at week 15... pct is 15-18... proviron would go up to week 14 as well...

you already know you need to get below 10% for masteron or your just wasting it... get that corrected as well... to me, this is a strong recomp but let me know what your wanting here

 

[Roidrage718]

Thanks Dylan. Goal is basically a recomp. Gain lean mass lose fat.

Even though I'm using short esters I should still wait 2 weeks to pct ?

I figured 2 orals were overkill so I'll probly save the tbol for winter.



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[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

You could also throw in GW501516 & MK2866 for 4 weeks to maximize your PCT, SARMSx.com carries both in very high quality

 

[Roidrage718]

Bumping this to the top to hopefully get more opinions and advice before May

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[Jake]

Gonna run a Test Prop / NPP / Mast cutting cycle..most likely beginning in May. Thinking either 10 or 12 weeks...Also have tbol and winny on hand as well as all AI's and PCT needed (caber, aromasin, nolva, clomid).

Update on stats as of today: 32yo, 6'0, 207 pounds, 13%bf....this will be my 4th cycle and 1st time using a nandrolone

Suggestions on the protocol?

I was thinking:

1-12 Prop 150mg M,W,F
1-12 NPP 150mg M, W, F
1-12 Mast 200mg M,W,F
7-12 winny 50mg daily along with cycle assist
1-12 Aromasin 12.5 eod (will dial it in as needed)
1-12 Proviron 50mg daily
caber .5 e3d

Figured it would be easier to keep track of pins by keeping it to the same 3 days a week instead of eod.

Questions:

Would it be overkill to kickstart with the tbol the first 4 weeks? I figure if i did that i would have 3 weeks off before the winny, but not sure if I will do this.

How long after last pin should i begin PCT which will be:

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg eod


Thanks in advance....

My guess is you want to loose weight while cycling. You will have to eat below maintenance..you know that. Dylan already laid it out for you so know need for more opins. I will add that no tbol for your cutting goal. Use the winny as dylan laid out. Do your npp, and test prop together in one pin EOD..not M,W,F.

 

[Roidrage718]

Cool. My diet is very strict and below maintenance and will be doing an eca stack 5 days on 2 off for the next month. Appreciate the input but what about the dosages eod? 100prop 100npp eod ? What threw me off was that Dylan said to wait 2 weeks after the last pin for pct even though I'll be using exclusively short esters. I thought I was gtg after 3-4 days. I could see running the winny 2 weeks longer if I was using cyp or enth and deca

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[JackSteel]

That's quite a long cutting cycle. Any reason you're not using long esters?


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[Roidrage718]

Honestly.. I did an awesome prop winny 10 week cycle and saw results much quicker plus recovery will be faster before my next one after new years. I'm not set on 12 weeks but that's why I value the opinions of those with more experience

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[RickRock]

Gonna run a Test Prop / NPP / Mast cutting cycle..most likely beginning in May. Thinking either 10 or 12 weeks...Also have tbol and winny on hand as well as all AI's and PCT needed (caber, aromasin, nolva, clomid).

Update on stats as of today: 32yo, 6'0, 207 pounds, 13%bf....this will be my 4th cycle and 1st time using a nandrolone

Suggestions on the protocol?

I was thinking:

1-12 Prop 150mg M,W,F
1-12 NPP 150mg M, W, F
1-12 Mast 200mg M,W,F
7-12 winny 50mg daily along with cycle assist
1-12 Aromasin 12.5 eod (will dial it in as needed)
1-12 Proviron 50mg daily
caber .5 e3d

Figured it would be easier to keep track of pins by keeping it to the same 3 days a week instead of eod.

Questions:

Would it be overkill to kickstart with the tbol the first 4 weeks? I figure if i did that i would have 3 weeks off before the winny, but not sure if I will do this.

How long after last pin should i begin PCT which will be:

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg eod


Thanks in advance....

I would leave the Tbol out as a kicker and just stick to the winny finisher. Since you are cutting I would at least add GW and S4 to this cycle as well, and preferably SR9009 as well. It will really make a difference on your results

At 13% bodyfat I really don't see masteron even making sense here. You won't notice much from it at that bodyfat.

PCT I would start about 10days after last injection since you are using short esters.


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[Jake]

Cool. My diet is very strict and below maintenance and will be doing an eca stack 5 days on 2 off for the next month. Appreciate the input but what about the dosages eod? 100prop 100npp eod ? What threw me off was that Dylan said to wait 2 weeks after the last pin for pct even though I'll be using exclusively short esters. I thought I was gtg after 3-4 days. I could see running the winny 2 weeks longer if I was using cyp or enth and deca

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The way Dylan laid it out is common for a cut cycle.You spend 2 weeks on winny by itself,take a week off and start pct. This way you feel the winny better and it seems to work better. Usually this is done when cyp is used. Since you are using prop it may be better to do it the way you orginally laid it out.Maybe Dylan will chime back in and has his reasons.

 

[Roidrage718]

Thanks Jake. Much appreciated. Trust me I've played the background and I know u know ur shit lol...

I did long esters my first 2 cycles following that exact protocol with cyp and var but am I correct in thinking that especially for the summer I'd see faster results and recover faster with my original plan? I know I shouldn't think think too far in advance but I wanna give myself enough recovery to be gtg for around January.

Again, appreciate the input...

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[RickRock]

The way Dylan laid it out is common for a cut cycle.You spend 2 weeks on winny by itself,take a week off and start pct. This way you feel the winny better and it seems to work better. Usually this is done when cyp is used. Since you are using prop it may be better to do it the way you orginally laid it out.Maybe Dylan will chime back in and has his reasons.

Yep, you are right. I just noticed that the Winstrol was continued for two weeks beyond dropping the test with what he recommended, which makes perfect sense for starting pct two weeks after in that scenario. That would work extremely well in that regard


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[Jake]

Your first protocol is fine. But still try to do a week or two of winny only and then one week latter start the pct. Like I said imo using the short esters you can start the pct in one week after the winny.