TRT Update

[buen]

Should put u around 500 but thats no where to hangout [emoji6]


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I have no clue were you get your bro science info..

Major TRT studies studies ...indicate... The majority of hypogonadal men (without other health issues) on trt using 100mg/wk Pharma Test experience a total blood serum level greater than 625ng/dL

here's a study that shows mean 608ng/dL... using 50-60mg per week Test enanthate or cypionate

https://endo.confex.com/endo/2013endo/webprogram/Paper9064.html

 

[Joe S.]

Not sure how fast acting it is, but I got a pretty good nights sleep last night, not sure if it was just placebo, or just not stressing about jabbing myself with a needle. lol either way I'll take it.

 

[buen]

Not sure how fast acting it is, but I got a pretty good nights sleep last night, not sure if it was just placebo, or just not stressing about jabbing myself with a needle. lol either way I'll take it.

enjoy the ride my brother...you should be feeling significantly better by the end of the week

 

[Joe S.]

Thanks Buen I'm looking forward to it!!

 

[TOG565]

I have no clue were you get your bro science info..

Major TRT studies studies ...indicate... The majority of hypogonadal men (without other health issues) on trt using 100mg/wk Pharma Test experience a total blood serum level greater than 625ng/dL

here's a study that shows mean 608ng/dL... using 50-60mg per week Test enanthate or cypionate

https://endo.confex.com/endo/2013endo/webprogram/Paper9064.html

No "BRO" science here. Experience. 100 puts me at 525. I could care less about "major" studies as thats where it puts me. Man just throwin my experience out there but I will be sure to study major studies before I add in my experience because if a major study suggests it then it must be true for everyone.


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[Joe S.]

Well Just did my second pin for the first time alone Saturday of 100 mgs. Sub Q in gut, scary how easy and painless it is. The major thing I noticed is I have been sleeping better, last night I got the best night sleep I have had in years, slept a whole 6 hours without waking once, Usually I am up every two to three hours so this was beautiful. I have also noticed my libido up now and thinking about sex a bit more. So definitely positives for sure.

 

[buen]

No "BRO" science here. Experience. 100 puts me at 525. I could care less about "major" studies as thats where it puts me. Man just throwin my experience out there but I will be sure to study major studies before I add in my experience because if a major study suggests it then it must be true for everyone.


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lol..you want to discount studies..but want to tell everybody YOUR experience is the NORM..it's not!
you of all people ...someone that blew up his HPTA due to steroid abuse...are far from the norm
you may even be running under-dosed test for all you know

your quote "Should put u around 500"..you NEVER qualified it..and said that that was your experience..and the OP's mileage might very...you thew it out as straight FACT ....sorry dude..you are wrong!

so you think your 1 test subject (you) using who knows what..is more valid than a study of HUNDREDS of men a in a study that documented (not suggested) a mean 608ng/dL... using 50-60mg per week Pharma Test enanthate or cypionate

MY 15yrs experience using EVERY TRT protocol and every ester is: 100mg/week puts me at 900-1100ng/dl
my many friends on trt 100mg/wk experience similar serum test levels

so don't be spouting off when you have nothing to back it up..YOUR experience is YOUR experience..it doesn't translate to anyone else

 

[TOG565]

lol..you want to discount studies..but want to tell everybody YOUR experience is the NORM..it's not!
you of all people ...someone that blew up his HPTA due to steroid abuse...are far from the norm
you may even be running under-dosed test for all you know

your quote "Should put u around 500"..you NEVER qualified it..and said that that was your experience..and the OP's mileage might very...you thew it out as straight FACT ....sorry dude..you are wrong!

so you think your 1 test subject (you) using who knows what..is more valid than a study of HUNDREDS of men a in a study that documented (not suggested) a mean 608ng/dL... using 50-60mg per week Pharma Test enanthate or cypionate

MY 15yrs experience using EVERY TRT protocol and every ester is: 100mg/week puts me at 900-1100ng/dl
my many friends on trt 100mg/wk experience similar serum test levels

so don't be spouting off when you have nothing to back it up..YOUR experience is YOUR experience..it doesn't translate to anyone else

Yep gave my experience. Wow. Freak out much? Sometimes when u want respect for responses you approach people respectfully. You didnt. You started off with your bro science BS. Done w it.


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[buen]

Yep gave my experience. Wow. Freak out much? Sometimes when u want respect for responses you approach people respectfully. You didnt. You started off with your bro science BS. Done w it.


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YOU STATED..something as FACT..you never said it was your result..
I HATE BAD MISLEADING INFORMATION
It doesn't serve anyone ..especially not the OP

Sorry..but it IS bro-science when you take 1 isolated result and extrapolate it into being fact

If your going to put something out there like that... QUALIFY it as your experience only...OR.... do your research and state the prevailing consensus

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[RedMorkai]

Hi Buen,

Do you use test cyp IM OR Subq? That's really good numbers for 100ml per week. One shot per week or more?

One shot of test c at 200/ml has me at around 900 after 6-7 days after last pin. I pin once per week also.

I was 700 on the dot 7 days after my script test C.

Obviously blood draw time is going to factor into that.

 

[RedMorkai]

Well Just did my second pin for the first time alone Saturday of 100 mgs. Sub Q in gut, scary how easy and painless it is. The major thing I noticed is I have been sleeping better, last night I got the best night sleep I have had in years, slept a whole 6 hours without waking once, Usually I am up every two to three hours so this was beautiful. I have also noticed my libido up now and thinking about sex a bit more. So definitely positives for sure.

My libido went up pretty much immediately after starting trt. Well-being and energy showed up 3-4th week for me and continued to improve. Lot of positives when correcting that, enjoy bro.

 

[buen]

Hi Buen,

Do you use test cyp IM OR Subq? That's really good numbers for 100ml per week. One shot per week or more?

One shot of test c at 200/ml has me at around 900 after 6-7 days after last pin. I pin once per week also.

I was 700 on the dot 7 days after my script test C.

Obviously blood draw time is going to factor into that.

yes..exactly
when doing weekly injections draw date can have a significant bearing on the lab results.....some guys metabolize testosterone more slowly/faster than others
that's why it's generally recommended to draw blood at 3 days after injection....you are trying to find a result closer to the average level in your blood for the entire week

 

[Joe S.]

My libido went up pretty much immediately after starting trt. Well-being and energy showed up 3-4th week for me and continued to improve. Lot of positives when correcting that, enjoy bro.

Looking forward to the energy and mood enhancement, I'm sure some of that will come with the better sleep as well

I have blood work scheduled for Weds morning first thing to check my level.

 

[Codename47]

Looking forward to the energy and mood enhancement, I'm sure some of that will come with the better sleep as well

I have blood work scheduled for Weds morning first thing to check my level.

Has it fixed any erection issues also?

 

[Joe S.]

I have been having longer lasting erections, I could get them before but I would just lose it after a while because I just wouldn't be to excited after a little bit and lose it, hard to explain... no pun intended. So I supplemented with triple x and Viagra. But I guess in a nut shell yes, I have only had sex with the old lady 3 times since starting last week, but this weekend I didn't take the other stuff and made it right through. Been having major morning wood last few days too.

 

[RickRock]

I have been having longer lasting erections, I could get them before but I would just lose it after a while because I just wouldn't be to excited after a little bit and lose it, hard to explain... no pun intended. So I supplemented with triple x and Viagra. But I guess in a nut shell yes, I have only had sex with the old lady 3 times since starting last week, but this weekend I didn't take the other stuff and made it right through. Been having major morning wood last few days too.

Those are all good signs that things are headed in the right direction bro

 

[Joe S.]

Yeah I'm excited, especially the sleep part, been so long since I had good sleep and I know that affected my gains over the past few years big time....