21M 5,6" 160
idk how long I've been lifting but at my strongest and fattest I could bench 275lbx5 so I'd say I'm early intermediate
for context i lost like 50 lbs, looking to get lean before fall term. that would prob be around 145lb for me.
the thing is I am so tired of tracking macros perfectly just for weight loss to taper off at like -0.7lb a week while eating fuck all once my metabolism adapts. yea 10k steps but crashed hormones 6 weeks into a phase and low carbs to get protein in so overall its kinda ass w low motivation.
but I've been seeing people get fairly quick, fairly decent results on some ostarine based stack during cuts. and I'm a little apprehensive abt losing more muscle
but they're usually running like 15mg and in my research it seems ostarine is still more suppressive than first ppl thought
also, the alleged recovery benefits of mk677 and improved sleep have been alluring, especially for a cut when that shit takes way longer and (sleep is way worse) plus i wanna roll bjj some and still lift.
also no I'm not touching GW or reta
so that leaves me w like 3 scenarios I've been toying with:
1. the one I'll prob go with in the end: no PEDs, this is all stupid af, thug out the cut, get lean the normal way. slapping meat on my frame isn't hard bc I'm short anyway.
2. run a 8 week bitch cycle no bloodwork even if it makes the last 15lb of the cut 10% easier, 3-5mg ostarine, 12.5mg mk677 if hunger is manageable, enclo on hand if I don't respond well to toxic research chemicals, maybe 3-4 weeks pct 3mg
3. actual beginner 8 week cycle 10-15mg ostarine, get bloods before during after, well planned pct
so before you say "hurr blast 25mg from week 1 do 12 weeks and spam enclo and milk thistle else its a waste" does anyone have any anecdotes with 5mg for longer than one or two weeks in this context? would it even be worth bothering with blood work at that dose? It does seem sketchy to me suppressing endogenous function in a depleted state regardless of the dosage bc I'd ideally be around -2lb/week the whole 8 weeks
idk how long I've been lifting but at my strongest and fattest I could bench 275lbx5 so I'd say I'm early intermediate
for context i lost like 50 lbs, looking to get lean before fall term. that would prob be around 145lb for me.
the thing is I am so tired of tracking macros perfectly just for weight loss to taper off at like -0.7lb a week while eating fuck all once my metabolism adapts. yea 10k steps but crashed hormones 6 weeks into a phase and low carbs to get protein in so overall its kinda ass w low motivation.
but I've been seeing people get fairly quick, fairly decent results on some ostarine based stack during cuts. and I'm a little apprehensive abt losing more muscle
but they're usually running like 15mg and in my research it seems ostarine is still more suppressive than first ppl thought
also, the alleged recovery benefits of mk677 and improved sleep have been alluring, especially for a cut when that shit takes way longer and (sleep is way worse) plus i wanna roll bjj some and still lift.
also no I'm not touching GW or reta
so that leaves me w like 3 scenarios I've been toying with:
1. the one I'll prob go with in the end: no PEDs, this is all stupid af, thug out the cut, get lean the normal way. slapping meat on my frame isn't hard bc I'm short anyway.
2. run a 8 week bitch cycle no bloodwork even if it makes the last 15lb of the cut 10% easier, 3-5mg ostarine, 12.5mg mk677 if hunger is manageable, enclo on hand if I don't respond well to toxic research chemicals, maybe 3-4 weeks pct 3mg
3. actual beginner 8 week cycle 10-15mg ostarine, get bloods before during after, well planned pct
so before you say "hurr blast 25mg from week 1 do 12 weeks and spam enclo and milk thistle else its a waste" does anyone have any anecdotes with 5mg for longer than one or two weeks in this context? would it even be worth bothering with blood work at that dose? It does seem sketchy to me suppressing endogenous function in a depleted state regardless of the dosage bc I'd ideally be around -2lb/week the whole 8 weeks



