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54 year old male introduction:

Tommydiesel

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54 year old male introduction:
Hello and I welcome all advice and guidance. I will try to be as detailed as I possibly can and if there's something I need to explain better please feel free to ask me. I will take your advice and your guidance to help me live long, happy and healthy.

I did attach a picture as well to my profile

Blood work 1-9-2018

WBC- 7.1
RBC-5.7*
HGB-17.9 g/dL *
HCT-51.3*
MCV-90FL
MCHC-35.0g/dL
MCH - 31pg
RDW -12%
Platelets- 150
MPV-10.8
Nerutro Auto- 71%
Lymph Auto -17%
Mono Auto-10%
EOS Auto-2%
Neutro Absolute- 5.0
Lymph Absolute- 1.2
Mono Absolute- 0.7
EOS Absolute- 0.1
Baso Absolute- 0.0
Esr westergren - 7mm
Albumin level- 4.3 g/dL
Alk phos - 41 unit /L
AST - 35 unit /L
ALT -39 unit/L
Bilirubin total - 1.0 mg/dL
Bilirubin Direct - 0.1 mg/dL
Protein totals-6.9g/dL
Cholesterol- 167 mg/dL
Triglycerides-93mg/dL
HDL- 33mg/dL*
VLDL-19mg/dL
LDL-115mg/dL
Chol/HDL- 5.1 *
TSH-1.29 McInt Unit/ml
FTSH- 1.9 Mcint Unit/ml
Total test-900
As of 2009 on been on TRT @200mg every 2 weeks for a few years and than it changed to every 10 days per my Doctor. the blood test above were drawn 7 days from my last TRT shot. I have gotten my blood work brawn on a regular basis since the Doctor put me on TRT but just in the last 2 months after my Test C shot I would get head aches that would last 24 hours.

COMPLETE stats;

Age 54
Height 5'9"
Weight 184
Body fat 15.4% on hand held machine
Years of training 25
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run) I have done 7 of the following cycles starting in 2000 @ 37yr old 2002-2005, 2008 and 2009 @46 yr old.

Week 1-200mg test c,
Week 2-200mg test c- deca 100mg
Week 3-400mg test c- deca 100mg
Week 4-400mg test c-deca 200mg
Week 5-400mg test c-deca 200mg
Week 6-400mg test c-deca 300mg
Week 7-500mg test c-deca 300mg
Week 8-500mg test c-deca 300mg
Week 9-400mg test c-deca 200mg
Week 10-400mg test c-deca 200mg
Week 11-200mg test c-deca 100mg
Week 12- 200mg test c-deca 100mg

PCT for each cycle clomid
Week 1-3 50mg each day
Week 4-5 100 mg each day
Week 6-7 50 mg each day

Goals- would like to gain 10 lbs of lean muscle at my age of 54! Was thinking about doing the same old cycle again.

Supplements - multi vitamin, 1000 mg Vit C, zinc, calcium, B12- 1000mg, protein powder 1 or twice a day, amino acids pre energy drink, And psyllium husk.
(any food allergies???) NO,
my food intake is clean, eat 5-6 times a day and I work out 5 times a week never missing more than 1 day in a row in 5 days. Also I use a calorie intake [email protected] 1800 a day and I would bump it up to gain the 10 lbs I'm looking for.

Any other relevant info (injuries, surgeries you've had, etc.)-- Left wrist bolts , screws and plates 1998 Left knee surgery x2 2006 & 2011 Right ankle broken 1998.
 

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Buddhabuilder

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Nice abs...that TRT dose is a little high. I don't see the Estro level in what you posted. It would be best to split you Test pins into even doses 2 times a week. Keeping your Test level more constant may help with the headaches.
 

buen

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WELCOME to the forum brother....!
Looking at your photo ....your dedication and commitment to consistency is greatly apparent
Nice to have another member of the "old guys rule" contingent
 

buen

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Week 1-200mg test c,
Week 2-200mg test c- deca 100mg
Week 3-400mg test c- deca 100mg
Week 4-400mg test c-deca 200mg
Week 5-400mg test c-deca 200mg
Week 6-400mg test c-deca 300mg
Week 7-500mg test c-deca 300mg
Week 8-500mg test c-deca 300mg
Week 9-400mg test c-deca 200mg
Week 10-400mg test c-deca 200mg
Week 11-200mg test c-deca 100mg
Week 12- 200mg test c-deca 100mg

PCT for each cycle clomid
Week 1-3 50mg each day
Week 4-5 100 mg each day
Week 6-7 50 mg each day

I know you didn't ask for a critique of your cycle....but I'll give my 2 cents worth anyway

In my experience there is absolutely no need or benefit to tirate your dose of test or deca up and down....
Especially when using Deca...deca is a long ester..it takes a long time to reach blood serum saturation...and is best run for a minimum of 14 weeks

Your dosing of deca is akin to running 200mg/wk for 11 weeks...it doesn't make alot of sense
My recommendation is to just run your cycle with 400-500mg test and 300mg Deca for 14-16 weeks
If for some reason you want a shorter cycle....Instead of Deca use NPP.....but be aware NPP does need to be pinned at least every other day

For your goal the addition of 600-800mg EQ would be of great benefit

your PCT is severely lacking
ideally it should look like this:

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod ( if needed...check your mid cycle blood work )
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
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RickRock

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Welcome to isarms brother. Glad to have you.

I agree with everything said about the cycle recommendation, and pct needs to be exactly what he posted as well
 

vinni

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Damn Man, pics looked like your ripped ! BF looks less than 15%.
Welcome to Isarms. Great intro BTW.
 

Tommydiesel

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WELCOME to the forum brother....!
Looking at your photo ....your dedication and commitment to consistency is greatly apparent
Nice to have another member of the "old guys rule" contingent

Thax Buen I do appreciate that
 

Tommydiesel

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I know you didn't ask for a critique of your cycle....but I'll give my 2 cents worth anyway

In my experience there is absolutely no need or benefit to tirate your dose of test or deca up and down....
Especially when using Deca...deca is a long ester..it takes a long time to reach blood serum saturation...and is best run for a minimum of 14 weeks

Your dosing of deca is akin to running 200mg/wk for 11 weeks...it doesn't make alot of sense
My recommendation is to just run your cycle with 400-500mg test and 300mg Deca for 14-16 weeks
If for some reason you want a shorter cycle....Instead of Deca use NPP.....but be aware NPP does need to be pinned at least every other day

For your goal the addition of 600-800mg EQ would be of great benefit

your PCT is severely lacking
ideally it should look like this:

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod ( if needed...check your mid cycle blood work )
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

Buen I really appreciate this advice and welcome any critique of my old school cycle.
 

Buddhabuilder

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Just reviewing the OP and it looks to me like you are more in a blast/cruise mode than a traditional cycle approach, which would mean no PCT required. As the late Rich Piana (the man we all used to love to hate) would say, there is no point in taking something to tell your system to turn back on if you are taking Test which is telling it to shut off...
 

Tommydiesel

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I do appreciate everybody's help and critique on my old school cycle. Any other input I would greatly appreciate. I do have few questions that I know might sound pretty damn stupid.
1- I haven't heard any advice on taking Dostinex with the above cycle so don't take it?
2- I read that after taken deca you should not take nolva, trying to decipher what's right or wrong so advice again is greatly appreciated or clarification.
4- when it's written 50/50/25/25 ... And so on... How do I read that - 50mg a day for 2 weeks than 25mg for the next two and do I take that simultaneously with the others that is listed? I know stupid question but I cannot decipher this code LOL old-school and technology.

Also I will get my mid cycle blood work done.
 

buen

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Just reviewing the OP and it looks to me like you are more in a blast/cruise mode than a traditional cycle approach, which would mean no PCT required. As the late Rich Piana (the man we all used to love to hate) would say, there is no point in taking something to tell your system to turn back on if you are taking Test which is telling it to shut off...

LOL...I spaced out completely....forgot he was on TRT....just read down to his PCT protocol and commented....it's hell being old..lol

BUDDA is 100% correct..you don't ever run a PCT when you are on TRT...you just finish your cycle/blast and return to your normal TRT protocol
 

DylanGemelli

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you should stick with the same dosing throughout... 250-300 each of test and deca and yes, you need caber... .25 mg every 3 days... you wont need pct being on trt as was pointed out...
 

Tommydiesel

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you should stick with the same dosing throughout... 250-300 each of test and deca and yes, you need caber... .25 mg every 3 days... you wont need pct being on trt as was pointed out...

Dyaln, thax for replying and thax to everyone for the Great advice. >>> I do like to blast and I'm aware that I will be cruising my whole life on TRT, but I also love life as well, so at what age will blasting do more harm then good? I would like to blast every year - your thoughts?
 

DylanGemelli

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Common sense would tell you that the older you are and the more cycles you run the harder it is on you
 
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