I won't name the site but the place I saw that tbol side effects listed hbp as 'rare' was a very reputable site to get gear. I had testicular cancer at age 35 and my test levels always borderline don the low side...260-280. Whole other story but I'm now 48. I don't care to get strong and I done care if I'm 230 either. I just want to get lean. 5'11"...205. I think my body fat is about 20%. Been trying to eat healthy and get back into lifting regularly. Cardio almost every day 3miles on the treadmill. Only want to turn some fat to lean mass and I figured something like tbol or var would be ok. And for the record I have done drol tren dbol deca masteron and probably more stuff I've forgotten about. Right now it's just test, hcg and seremorelin all from scripts. Get my blood checked 4 times a year. Everything normal but test was at 1031 . Sorry for all the useless info but I just want to point out that some of us aren't all hung ho with complicated cycles and all that. I want to stay healthy and live a while!! And last thing last three bp readings were 90/64, 108/72 and then yesterday 131/81. Idk why it fuxuates so much???