Testosterone cypionate/enanthate tapering

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

By the by, I had my bloods done to check my free and total testosterone levels. They were normal. I just heard from someone that alot of folks choose to stay on because of the improvement of quality of life. Now don't cut my head off here but I know a competitive BB who stays on this, gets on TRT for a little bit, gets on that, etc. I don't want to marry needle by any means. I really want to have a positive experience I can see and feel from this.

No, it's not a good idea to just stay on if you don't require to do so, not sure who said this to you but have you ever heard of the saying misery loves company ? If I told you cocaine improved my quality of life, would you then start using cocaine and stay on it because you feel better using coke ? Of course drugs are going to make you feel better while on them then off, that's what they do but doesn't mean its a good idea.

 

[EEC73]

I agree wholeheartedly. That's my take on it. This person I heard it from doesn't have the wisdom like me. He is an amateur BB going balls to the wall ya know. Young dude. I've watched him for 2 years in my gym until one day I approached him and initiated conversation. I straight up asked him, what are you running? I mean it was dead obvious. He told me. Appreciate the wisdom bro, i'm on the same page as you. All part of doing my research. Thank you!

 

[EEC73]

I would really appreciate that Dylan. I'm ready to run the testosterone. My exact goals would to more or less increase strength gains and get even leaner but not too much size except what would come from progressive overloads.

 

[EEC73]

I would really appreciate that Dylan. I want to make strength gains but not get too, too big except what would come from the progressive overloads with the lifting.

 

[RickRock]

I would really appreciate that Dylan. I'm ready to run the testosterone. My exact goals would to more or less increase strength gains and get even leaner but not too much size except what would come from progressive overloads.

I know Dylan will get back to you very soon on his recommendation but I'll go ahead and give you mine based on your goals

Here is what I'd run. Get the sarms and pct from www.sarmsx.com

1-12 Test C 350mg per week
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

PCT starting two weeks after last injection

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED



(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

 

[EEC73]

Thanks Rick! By the way, GW rocks! Have been using it here and there as a preworkout. Good vibes in the gym.

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

I agree wholeheartedly. That's my take on it. This person I heard it from doesn't have the wisdom like me. He is an amateur BB going balls to the wall ya know. Young dude. I've watched him for 2 years in my gym until one day I approached him and initiated conversation. I straight up asked him, what are you running? I mean it was dead obvious. He told me. Appreciate the wisdom bro, i'm on the same page as you. All part of doing my research. Thank you!

Your are well on your way to acquire the desired knowledge that you seek sir, and I can tell that you are an intelligent person by the way you are gathering your information. Keep doing this, hang around the forums here as you are now part of our community and when the time comes you will have all the tools, knowledge and very best sources needed all here to begin your endeavors. And to top it off, you always have us to ask any questions you feel or need to. Sometimes you may get a bit of smart assery thrown back at you, but take it as just the guys talking as friends or just tough love, but that's all it is and we will always answer you truthfully and have your very best interests in mind even if you happen not to. Welcome to our home, your home, iSARMS forums bro...

 

[EEC73]

I bow my head. Obrigado!

 

[MaxxPursuit]

I know Dylan will get back to you very soon on his recommendation but I'll go ahead and give you mine based on your goals

Here is what I'd run. Get the sarms and pct from www.sarmsx.com

1-12 Test C 350mg per week
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

PCT starting two weeks after last injection

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED



(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

Boom.. This is exactly what you want brother. And stick around so you can further your knowledge. Lots of learning to do.

 

[EEC73]

Awesome. Thank you. Sounds genuine. We all then have a responsibility towards one another. Great stuff!

 

[SpikedEggnog]

I have almost come to terms with running my first testosterone cycle. C or E. Doesn't matter, so i've heard. Starter dose, 250mg injected weekly as a split dose of 125mg on Mondays and 125mg on Thursdays. Ancillaries on hand, Arimedex or Aromasin? Only, only use if needed. Please don't hesitate to check me here, but someone said a PCT would not be necessary for a first time cycle if you were A: using a low dose compound such as T-C or T-E, and B: to taper off of the testosterone. Example, 250mg split for weeks 1 through 12, then start a taper week on week 13 of 100mg injected as a split dose of 50mg on Monday and 50mg on Thursday. Week 14, 50mg injected 25mg on Monday and 25mg on Thursday. So just a total of 14 weeks with the Testosterone C or E. Now the entire time frame for weeks 1 through 16, 0.25mg Anastrozole taken every other day and also for weeks 1 through 16, take 5mg Taurine split between mornings and evenings. Fellas, for my first time, what do you think?

no it doesn't matter, but I would go with C because its a longer ester.
Aromasin always better then Adex.
low dose and tapering has nothing to do with it, you NEED a pct always bro
I wouldn't waste my time tapering, it wont make a difference honestly
I would do 12 weeks, not 14.
again, use Aromasin instead of Arimidex

 

[EEC73]

Thank you! Will do.

 

[bodean30]

I think everyone here has given you great advice.

Tapering seems to be an old school approach to PCT from the "Arnold days" before we had all these kick ass ancillaries. At this day and age tapering is just counterproductive and will only delay recovery.

Good luck man.

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[DTA707]

It's not at all your fault but you got some bad info. You luckily found the right forum.

 

[EEC73]

I didn't realize that. Very interesting. I appreciate it! Thank you very much and best to you!

 

[DylanGemelli]

i have a really strong layout for you... perfect for your goals and a perfect first cycle... i am going to give you the links to get everything you need followed by the layout... you should exceed your expectations with this stack..

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=150&search=ultra

https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum



1-12 350-500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg every other day
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[EEC73]

What about the HCG? Didn't see it on Sarmsx. Do I aquire it through the guy i'll be getting the Testosterone C from?

 

[DylanGemelli]

What about the HCG? Didn't see it on Sarmsx. Do I aquire it through the guy i'll be getting the Testosterone C from?

hcg is not anything sarmsx would sell... you can ask your guy... its not anything your going to just buy like something you buy normal... so yes, you can try that

 

[EEC73]

I noticed the liquiaro (aromasin) on Sarmsx comes in 30ml bottles dosed at 15mg per ml. So to get my 12.5mg every other day dosage, would I fill that little dropper to the .75 ml level? I noticed the dropper that comes with my GW bottle I have been using has ml increments marked on it.

 

[DylanGemelli]

I noticed the liquiaro (aromasin) on Sarmsx comes in 30ml bottles dosed at 15mg per ml. So to get my 12.5mg every other day dosage, would I fill that little dropper to the .75 ml level? I noticed the dropper that comes with my GW bottle I have been using has ml increments marked on it.

you can or you can just go with 15 mg instead of 12.5.. Its not going to do you any harm... many just do that, otherwise, yes, just a bit over the .75 level