scale between Test-e + tren-e

[royalLegend]

hi guys me again!

last time I asked for a comparison between tren and NPP
So it came out to be tren.
anyhow.. so now the question for me is, what is the right scale between test-e and tren-e

planning on doing this

week 1-15 test-e 600mg EW
week 1-15 tren-e 500mg EW
week 9-15 winstrol 60mg ED
week 1-15 aromasin 10mg ED
week 18-21 PCT

injects will be twice a week to minimize the half time of the ester. injecting EOD for the ace variant was a bit too much

cheers guys, hope to have a reaction soon!

 

[Blackhat]

What is your goals? I didn't see the other thread. What is your stats?

 

[cbbram00]

Have you used tren before? Running a long ester of tren the first time around could be a problem. If the sides are too much you'll have to ride it out till esters clear...

 

[RickRock]

Re: RE: scale between Test-e + tren-e

hi guys me again!

last time I asked for a comparison between tren and NPP
So it came out to be tren.
anyhow.. so now the question for me is, what is the right scale between test-e and tren-e

planning on doing this

week 1-15 test-e 600mg EW
week 1-15 tren-e 500mg EW
week 9-15 winstrol 60mg ED
week 18-21 PCT

injects will be twice a week to minimize the half time of the ester. injecting EOD for the ace variant was a bit too much

cheers guys, hope to have a reaction soon!

Make sure you use caber and aromasin on cycle. I'd also throw some GW in to combat Tren side effects.

Please give us your stats and experience as well.

As for test to Tren ratio, there are a number of opinions on that. Most like Tren higher than test at about 2:1, where I prefer mine to be about even. It depends a lot on how estrogen sensitive you are, and how you respond to test

 

[royalLegend]

What is your goals? I didn't see the other thread. What is your stats?

my goal is to be around 80 kilo lean (176 pounds)
currently i'm 74 kilo 8/10% BF(162 pounds)
i'm 180 cm tall (5' 10'')

 

[royalLegend]

Have you used tren before? Running a long ester of tren the first time around could be a problem. If the sides are too much you'll have to ride it out till esters clear...

yes i've used the ace variant. ran that on 2ml a week (150mg) now i'm also running it 2ml a week on the E variant. 0 to none sides

 

[royalLegend]

Re: RE: scale between Test-e + tren-e

hi guys me again!

last time I asked for a comparison between tren and NPP
So it came out to be tren.
anyhow.. so now the question for me is, what is the right scale between test-e and tren-e

planning on doing this

week 1-15 test-e 600mg EW
week 1-15 tren-e 500mg EW
week 9-15 winstrol 60mg ED
week 18-21 PCT

injects will be twice a week to minimize the half time of the ester. injecting EOD for the ace variant was a bit too much

cheers guys, hope to have a reaction soon!

Make sure you use caber and aromasin on cycle. I'd also throw some GW in to combat Tren side effects.

Please give us your stats and experience as well.

As for test to Tren ratio, there are a number of opinions on that. Most like Tren higher than test at about 2:1, where I prefer mine to be about even. It depends a lot on how estrogen sensitive you are, and how you respond to test

i've got aromasin. 10mg ED forgot to put that in.
i'm not really estrogen sensitive. had 0 sides with my previous cycle. only a little acne on the last 3 weeks...

 

[RickRock]

What is your goals? I didn't see the other thread. What is your stats?

my goal is to be around 80 kilo lean (176 pounds)
currently i'm 74 kilo 8/10% BF(162 pounds)
i'm 180 cm tall (5' 10'')

Brother you need to forget the Tren right now. You don't have the size or experience for that yet. Stick with test only right now. What is your age, and what is your expereince with cycles? Test only or a sarms stack is really as far as I think you need right now. There may be holes in your diet or training as well that need fixed, but you need to stay far clear of Tren, which is the harshest steroid out there

 

[Blackhat]

I am NOT conservative, when it comes to cycling. So this is not intended to scare you away from tren. But there is a few things that guys need to know. Do I get all tore up over the cardiovascular stuff said about tren? not really. Do I care that some people think they're going to go crazy and get all road raged over Tren? Not really. Because everybody blows it out of proportion generally. But what I will tell you, is I have some permanent lung damage, caused from tren. It's not something that just comes back easy. And it's not just a matter of, it kills your cardio while you're running it. I have a lung nodule, from running tren. And I know other guys that do too. In fact I know one man that has 8 nodules in his lung. They said mine looks like calcium has built around it and it's kind of like a stone. My cardio is not just hindered , it stinks. And you can take all the Eq, and GW , you want. It will help you, with sides. But it's not going to stop what tren does to your lungs. I've had a full lung examination by specialist. He said it doesn't make any sense. In 25 years he's not seen all the same symptoms that my lungs have. They have full capacity, I can inhale and can use a hundred percent of the oxygen. But he said it's almost like someone that has asthma. Except I don't have asthma. Tren gave me a small dry cough that would not stop. If I tried to talk a lot, I'd start this little dry cough. If I would laugh I'd have this little dry cough. I have been on tren for longer than I would want you to know. After I stop the tren, in about a month to two months , the cough stopped but the lung damage never came back. I remember a professional competitor, who used to say he thought it cause permanent lung damage. I thought he was crazy. And he's not even the guy that has the lung nodules. Just something to think about, when you're choosing to run tren. Especially when you're choosing to run it for a long time.

 

[drb_iac]

I am NOT conservative, when it comes to cycling. So this is not intended to scare you away from tren. But there is a few things that guys need to know. Do I get all tore up over the cardiovascular stuff said about tren? not really. Do I care that some people think they're going to go crazy and get all road raged over Tren? Not really. Because everybody blows it out of proportion generally. But what I will tell you, is I have some permanent lung damage, caused from tren. It's not something that just comes back easy. And it's not just a matter of, it kills your cardio while you're running it. I have a lung nodule, from running tren. And I know other guys that do too. In fact I know one man that has 8 nodules in his lung. They said mine looks like calcium has built around it and it's kind of like a stone. My cardio is not just hindered , it stinks. And you can take all the Eq, and GW , you want. It will help you, with sides. But it's not going to stop what tren does to your lungs. I've had a full lung examination by specialist. He said it doesn't make any sense. In 25 years he's not seen all the same symptoms that my lungs have. They have full capacity, I can inhale and can use a hundred percent of the oxygen. But he said it's almost like someone that has asthma. Except I don't have asthma. Tren gave me a small dry cough that would not stop. If I tried to talk a lot, I'd start this little dry cough. If I would laugh I'd have this little dry cough. I have been on tren for longer than I would want you to know. After I stop the tren, in about a month to two months , the cough stopped but the lung damage never came back. I remember a professional competitor, who used to say he thought it cause permanent lung damage. I thought he was crazy. And he's not even the guy that has the lung nodules. Just something to think about, when you're choosing to run tren. Especially when you're choosing to run it for a long time.

I know this to be true. The pathways that tren uses to change you body and muscle/fat is the same process that produces by products that can damage lungs.Tren cough will come from any form of trenbolone. I never say dont touch tren, but I ask that you inform yourself and be ready and prepared to not freak when the side come on. I personally got tired of the night seats. Changing clothes ..sometimes 2 times in one night really bangs up the sleep. The sleep is anabolic..we all know that. Tren will break up your rest cycle. Plus just like written here...there are lung and other organ issues with tren. Proceed with caution

 

[Tha_waco_kid]

I love the OP cycle. I personally have best results with test and teen about the same.

600 test e
600 tren

After much experimenting I find this to be the sweet spot for me.


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[royalLegend]

What is your goals? I didn't see the other thread. What is your stats?

my goal is to be around 80 kilo lean (176 pounds)
currently i'm 74 kilo 8/10% BF(162 pounds)
i'm 180 cm tall (5' 10'')

Brother you need to forget the Tren right now. You don't have the size or experience for that yet. Stick with test only right now. What is your age, and what is your expereince with cycles? Test only or a sarms stack is really as far as I think you need right now. There may be holes in your diet or training as well that need fixed, but you need to stay far clear of Tren, which is the harshest steroid out there

thanks for looking out for me.
my goal is not to be a monster.. i just wanna have an aesthetically pleasing physique wich looks hard and full
i've ran tren before and it was without any sides.
who says my diet is shit? like i said, i dont wanna be a monster. i wanna be hard and lean.
if i could upload pictures you would see i'm already quite there

 

[Blackhat]

Re: RE: Re: scale between Test-e + tren-e

What is your goals? I didn't see the other thread. What is your stats?

my goal is to be around 80 kilo lean (176 pounds)
currently i'm 74 kilo 8/10% BF(162 pounds)
i'm 180 cm tall (5' 10'')

Brother you need to forget the Tren right now. You don't have the size or experience for that yet. Stick with test only right now. What is your age, and what is your expereince with cycles? Test only or a sarms stack is really as far as I think you need right now. There may be holes in your diet or training as well that need fixed, but you need to stay far clear of Tren, which is the harshest steroid out there

thanks for looking out for me.
my goal is not to be a monster.. i just wanna have an aesthetically pleasing physique wich looks hard and full
i've ran tren before and it was without any sides.
who says my diet is shit? like i said, i dont wanna be a monster. i wanna be hard and lean.
if i could upload pictures you would see i'm already quite there

Run it. Add in mast at 600. You should meet your goals. Boom done.

 

[DylanGemelli]

What is your goals? I didn't see the other thread. What is your stats?

my goal is to be around 80 kilo lean (176 pounds)
currently i'm 74 kilo 8/10% BF(162 pounds)
i'm 180 cm tall (5' 10'')

Brother you need to forget the Tren right now. You don't have the size or experience for that yet. Stick with test only right now. What is your age, and what is your expereince with cycles? Test only or a sarms stack is really as far as I think you need right now. There may be holes in your diet or training as well that need fixed, but you need to stay far clear of Tren, which is the harshest steroid out there

thanks for looking out for me.
my goal is not to be a monster.. i just wanna have an aesthetically pleasing physique wich looks hard and full
i've ran tren before and it was without any sides.
who says my diet is shit? like i said, i dont wanna be a monster. i wanna be hard and lean.
if i could upload pictures you would see i'm already quite there

im scanning up and down and i cannot seem to find anyone saying your diet is shit anywhere... i saw a comment that said "there may be holes in diet and training which is something we all face... noone is insulting your diet in any way as it has not been posted to even assess..

i would not go with tren at this point.. its unncecessary and not what you need... bro, if you just want aestetically pleasing then theres no need to complicate this... your body fat is low enough to use masteron so USE IT BRO... NOT EVERYONE IS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE IN THAT CONDITION TO USE IT SO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT! YOU WILL LOVE IT...

basically, test mast and winstrol with some cutting sarms is perfect man... here is the layout

1-12 test cyp 500 mg week
1-12 mast e 800 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 proviron 50 mg day
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
9-14 winstrol 50 mg day
9-14 cycle assist
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25

nolva 40/20/20/20

aromasin 12.5 mg eod

cycle assist

mk-2866 25 mg day

gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[DylanGemelli]

I am NOT conservative, when it comes to cycling. So this is not intended to scare you away from tren. But there is a few things that guys need to know. Do I get all tore up over the cardiovascular stuff said about tren? not really. Do I care that some people think they're going to go crazy and get all road raged over Tren? Not really. Because everybody blows it out of proportion generally. But what I will tell you, is I have some permanent lung damage, caused from tren. It's not something that just comes back easy. And it's not just a matter of, it kills your cardio while you're running it. I have a lung nodule, from running tren. And I know other guys that do too. In fact I know one man that has 8 nodules in his lung. They said mine looks like calcium has built around it and it's kind of like a stone. My cardio is not just hindered , it stinks. And you can take all the Eq, and GW , you want. It will help you, with sides. But it's not going to stop what tren does to your lungs. I've had a full lung examination by specialist. He said it doesn't make any sense. In 25 years he's not seen all the same symptoms that my lungs have. They have full capacity, I can inhale and can use a hundred percent of the oxygen. But he said it's almost like someone that has asthma. Except I don't have asthma. Tren gave me a small dry cough that would not stop. If I tried to talk a lot, I'd start this little dry cough. If I would laugh I'd have this little dry cough. I have been on tren for longer than I would want you to know. After I stop the tren, in about a month to two months , the cough stopped but the lung damage never came back. I remember a professional competitor, who used to say he thought it cause permanent lung damage. I thought he was crazy. And he's not even the guy that has the lung nodules. Just something to think about, when you're choosing to run tren. Especially when you're choosing to run it for a long time.

this is good advice... i also agree.. supports help, yes and they "support" as they are intended but that does not FULLY protect anything and you are still at risk, while it may be lower, there is still a high likelihood of occurrence that you don't want to happen... well said bro