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Right!! Especially a man, how can a man not like test....
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i will never understand that... generally i find in a rare circumstance when someone says that they just simply don't know how to use it properly whether dosing or controlling estrogen... that makes no sense on how you could not like it... if you don't like it then how could you like anything anabolic?
I feel like they did the vid to get people to look at pros as if they don't use high doses. They're probably trying to get amateurs to not blast heavy. Tom Platz kept bringing up how steroids shouldn't be abused. But we all know pros abuse aas, gh, insulin, recreational drugs, etc...
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I dunno. Lol good question.
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I was gonna say aromatizing but he takes Dbol. However studies do show that Dbol doesn't aromatize as much on paper so who knows. Maybe it doesn't mess with him.
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They didn't do a very good job if that was the agenda. The insulin, GH and diarrhetic use was not very conservative. But I don't think we're being completely truthful either.
At least for Ronnie.
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They didn't do a very good job if that was the agenda. The insulin, GH and diarrhetic use was not very conservative. But I don't think we're being completely truthful either.
At least for Ronnie.
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Its Dennis Newman
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I know some bodybuilders who do not use test or not much of it at all, not saying its good idea just some people dont use it
Ah that makes sense. He passed as well I believe unfortunately.
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He still alive but he had leucemia, which why he retired
From those I've known that ran primo without test, they didn't fair too well in the libido department. Kinda like anavar without test.
If I could only run one thing ever, no question it would be test. I feel on top of the world with it. Especially when I run it higher
i also know some that don't use test as pharma lady pointed out but i can't imagine not using it with everything... it literally makes no sense whatsoever... it truly is the base of everything, the backbone of a cycle and without it, your just setting yourself up for problems...
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A lot of those guys say 200mg or 1cc is all they take, but what they really mean is each pin and it seems they usually mean 2x a week.
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Whats your guys opinion about the video when Ronnie Coleman states DO NOT to use nolvadex during PCT due to the fact that it negates GH levels ? On the other hand he does agree with clomid usage PCT
everyone has a different theory on that... some reason or another... use this, use that... i go with what is tried and true, what i see work on the majority, what bloodwork dictates etc. and that's the pct i always recommend which includes both... if i had to pick between one or another, i would go with clomid but for the best recovery, you need both
I agree, i use both clomid and tamox for accelerated recovery. Seems to work for me, my PCT goal is always to recover as fast as possible so leaving nolva out in attempts to keep GH levels as high as possible is not my primary concern. Plus from what i can determine, using aromasin in conjunction with nolva should assist with the GH conflict.
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