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Thread: 4th Cycle planning : Training, Diet and Supps: Please comment and advise

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    4th Cycle planning : Training, Diet and Supps: Please comment and advise

    Hi All,
    Apologies for the long post but I have in the past been asked to add more detail so here it goes:
    I would like to start a discussion to get some feedback and thoughts about a recomp cycle which I am planning. I specifically would like help with regards to diet in respect to deciding macros and total calorific intake. How would be a good way to go about setting this up in a sustainable way? Training wise I have seen great results in how I currently train but I am not naive enough to think that I know everything. Furthermore could you please comment on the cycle I am planning (it is lower down)
    Cycles and sups are only useful once I have this “dialled in” as you guys like to say I am however doing my research and planning. It will also not be my 1st cycle.
    Cycle 1: (pre-Dylan and iSarms Forum so I know what I did wrong)
    Anavar + Proviron with a PCT of Clomid and Nolvadex
    Cycle 2 (pre-Dylan and iSarms Forum so I know what I did wrong)
    Anavar + Proviron + Winstrol with a PCT of Clomid and Nolvadex
    Cycle 3
    Primobolan (Oral) + Test + Proviron + MK-677 + HCG (pre PCT) + GW-501516 and winstrol (finisher) with a PCT of Clomid, nolvadex, MK-2866, MK-677, GW-501516. This was followed by a bridge of RAD-140, MK-2866, MK-677 and GW-501516 with a mini PCT of Clomid, Nolvadex, MK-677 and GW-501516.
    Here are my current stats:
    Age: 34, Height: 6’1, Weight: 210lb, BF: +- 14%
    Goal Weight: 210 – 220 lb
    Goal BF: 10%
    Training History: From 18 till 22 I trained powerlifting; from 23 till 27 I trained more towards bodybuilding style i.e. aesthetics. I then found Olympic weightlifting from 27 until 32. I now train again more like bodybuilding, but based on heavy weight compound lifts, deadlift, bench, squat, military barbell press, etc. All movements are full range of motion. No Cheating! I like training cardio for 30-45min before touching weights. This is either swimming (played waterpolo my whole life) or cycling.
    I train Sunday to Friday and play golf on a sat morning.
    Strength Stats:
    Bench (Current): 220 (6 rep) 280lb (1 rep)
    Squat (Current): 265 (6 rep) 320lb (1rep)
    Deadlift (Current): 330lb (6rep)
    Snatch (Not Current): 232lb
    Clean and Jerk (Not Current): 290lb
    Swimming: 1 mile in < 34min
    This is the Cycle I plan on running later this year:
    Main Cycle: 16 Weeks
    Week 1 – 14 Primobolan Enathate 800mg/week
    Week 1 – 14 Test Cypionate 400 mg/week
    Week 1 – 14 Trenbolone Enathate 300mg/week
    Week 1- 16 Proviron 60mg/day
    Week 1-16 Aromasin 50mg/week
    Week 1-16 Caber 1 mg/week
    Week 12-16 HCG 250ui every other day (total 4000ui)
    Week 1-16 MK-667 30mg/day
    Week 1-16 GW-501506 20mg/day
    Kick Start:
    Week 1-6 Winstrol 50mg/day
    Finisher:
    Week 11-16 Winstrol 50mg/day
    PCT: Weeks 17-21
    Clomid 50/50/25/25/25
    Nolvadex 40/40/40/40/20
    MK-677 30mg/day
    GW-501516 20mg/day
    MK-2866 30mg/day
    The Diet I think I should try follow:
    Calories: +-210lb x 14 (Endo/Mesomorph) = +-3000 calories per day
    I would like to lose between 1 and 2 lbs per week so I will target 2500 calories a day.
    I want to maintain as much muscle and even add a few pounds so I will go for a 60% Protein, 30 Carbs and 10% fats ratio.
    Thus:
    2500 x 60% / 4 calories per gram = 375g Protein per day
    2500 x 30% / 4 calories per gram = 187.5g carbs per day
    2500 x 10% / 9 calories per gram = 28g fat per day
    Thanks in advance for any and all feedback.
    Regards
    Mac

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    4th Cycle planning : Training, Diet and Supps: Please comment and advise

    cycle 3 sounds good, you definitely learned a lot from that bullshit cycle 1 and 2. good stuff man, make sure you start pct 2 weeks after last pin aswell

    cycle 4 also looks good besides the hcg, you don't run hcg on cycle.


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    Last edited by Tazz; 01-09-2017 at 10:03 AM.

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    however i think your protein is way too high and kind of excessive, cut down the protein and up the fats a bit


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    Ok. Noted. As for the hcg, it is in the last month before pct when I am clearing the system of long esters. Is this correct?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Macgyver123 View Post
    Ok. Noted. As for the hcg, it is in the last month before pct when I am clearing the system of long esters. Is this correct?


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    2 500iu shots (1000iu a week) for 4 weeks , which are last 2 weeks of cycle and 2 weeks after last pin, start pct 2 weeks after last pin.


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    So I should only run hcg the last 2 weeks (15 and 16)? 1000ui per week, total 2000ui? This is when the esters are clearing.


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    4th Cycle planning : Training, Diet and Supps: Please comment and advise

    Quote Originally Posted by Macgyver123 View Post
    So I should only run hcg the last 2 weeks (15 and 16)? 1000ui per week, total 2000ui? This is when the esters are clearing.


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    last 2 weeks of cycle and 2 weeks after last pin, 4 weeks total. 2 500iu shots a week, so 4000iu total in 4 weeks.

    so weeks 15-18


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    Ok. Noted


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    Cycle plan looks good to me. Your dose of MK-677 should be 25mg per day, and make sure you get it from www.sarmsx.com along with the rest of your SARMS and pct






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    Imho from reading your cycle history this is your first run with tren. I would run tren ace for first run and do 75mg-100mg eod. The extra pins is worth being able to control side effects! Nutritionally I would have two day of the week at a surplus of calories and take advantage of the nutrition repartitioning effects of tren.

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