I have been watching your videos and I just want to thank you for the great advice on the facts and dangers of steroids and how to avoid negative side effects. I am not a native English speaker so I apologize if there are any grammar mistakes. I have decided to try my first cycle with Dbol. I have read articles and watched videos that Dbol can be taken by itself but many people have commented that it is best taken with Test for maximum results. I wanted to ask you if you can explain the best way to stack Dbol with Test. I have Test cypionate but I am not sure if I am ready to stack because of the lack of knowledge regarding stacking two steroids. I also wanted to ask what is the shortest possible cycle with Dbol and Test together? Thanks for posting the videos, they helped a lot.
First cycle and need advice
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MaxxPursuit
Senior Member
What are your stats bud? Definitely do not do the dbol only cycle. Oral only cycles are a waste. Let us know your stats so we can make suggestions before you do anything.
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Might be too early in the game for you to run with AAS IMO. But I would be interested in hearing your stats as well so we can point you in the right direction
none of us can help you without you posting your stats bro... its impossible... we need your age/height/weight/body fat? goals from the cycle?
As others pointed out, we need to know more about you first before we can help you. Give us your full stats and experience.
Dbol may not be the best choice for you, and it's definitely not something you run without test. There are a lot of great alternatives out there that may suit you better but give us those stats first so we can further assist you
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Dbol may not be the best choice for you, and it's definitely not something you run without test. There are a lot of great alternatives out there that may suit you better but give us those stats first so we can further assist you
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Jake
Active member
I hope you are about 25 years old first off.Second dbol is terrible for a beginner, and even worse when taken by itself. It is always the best and safest to start you cycle with about 250ml of test cyp or testE ONLY. If you are younger than 25 then it is way safer to start off with a sarms only cycle
Age - 24
Weight - 73kg
Height - 178cm
Bf% - about 8-9%
I have been training since I was 18 years old and have had zero experience with any steroids. I feel that i am ready to try a short cycle to see whether or not I am ready to go down that road. My goals are to make some lean muscle mass and possibly reach 80kg. Any suggestions?
Weight - 73kg
Height - 178cm
Bf% - about 8-9%
I have been training since I was 18 years old and have had zero experience with any steroids. I feel that i am ready to try a short cycle to see whether or not I am ready to go down that road. My goals are to make some lean muscle mass and possibly reach 80kg. Any suggestions?
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stretch512
Member
pavlodar - you are too young - come back to us in like 10 years at least.
dbol is definitely not the option you would want for lean muscle mass bro... not to mention, when your running test your going to be on at least 12 weeks unless your running a short ester which you would generally not want to do on a first cycle so you may want to rethink this... oral only cycles are a complete waste of time... you would not even want to consider anything like that... your still pretty young as well and its not the wisest move to use steroids at your age... your still growing naturally and your only going to ruin that entire process by using steroids too early ultimately causing you nothing but problems down the line... not really an optimal game plan bro... you do have other options... sarms would be perfect for you and you can easily add 7-10 lbs. of clean muscle that you will actually keep, you won't suppress yourself like with anabolics and not have any of the side effect concerns... everything can be shipped to you if your out of the country as well... www.sarmsx.com
this is the cycle layout
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 mk677 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
9-12 daa
Mini pct 13-16
clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day
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^Definitely can't go wrong with a SARMS stack for your first run. And sarmsx.com have them all in high quality. This would be a great option to get your feet wet. Dylan laid out a sweet stack for you already with dosage protocols
I would strongly advise against using any type of steroid right now, and orals a definitely not a good idea at all. At the stage you are at right now, I would highly suggest running a sarms stack. You can get great results from sarms in terms of lean muscle mass and strength with the right diet and training.
They are also pretty much side effect free and won't shut you down like steroids will so they are far safer to use.
For your goals, here is the stack I would recommend to you
https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/ultra-recomp-stack-12-weeks-2
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
PCT
Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day
https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1
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