Winter Cutting Log (2nd SARMs Cycle)

[kid101]

2nd SARMs Cycle (Pharma Lady)

1-12 GW-501516 20 mg day

1-12 Ostarine 25 mg day

1-4 rad140 20 mg day
5-12 rad140 30 mg day

1-2 S4 50 mg day (split)
3-6 S4 75 mg day (split)
7-12 S4 100mg day (split) *will adjust accordingly if sides become intolerable.

9-12 DGA POST CT

Mini pct 13-16

clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

*Ongoing: 6 months so far of MK677 25mg day (began 8/1/18) from Biotech. Have just ordered some more MK677 to be run for at least 1 year...

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My first SARMs cycle was from Biotech, with forum recommended starter doses. Increasing S4 and Rad a bit this time. So far, no S4 sides. I'm 6 weeks into this cycle. Just got bloodwork today...pics and log coming next..as well as possible other info I've been tracking, and will update weekly...

 

[kid101]

WK 1: 12/9/18 - 12/15/18 - [Day 1 Weight: 189] Weekly Average Weight: 188

Day 1/Sunday: Rest day from lifting weights. Endurance boost during Cardio (Elliptical) 30 mins. Cheat meal.
Day 2/Monday: Chest/Back. Muscular endurance boost- more sets of crunches without rest, as well as less rest needed between sets of pullovers. Cardio (Elliptical)15 mins.
Day 3/Tuesday: AM: Shoulders/PM:Arms. Good pump. Cardio (Elliptical) 5 mins.
Day 4/Wednesday: Legs/Lower Back. PR for Squats and Lunges. Good endurance/pump during calf-raises. Cardio (Elliptical) 15 mins.
Day 5/Thursday: AM/PM: Chest/Back. Good stretch/more flexibility. Short session/tired due to scheduling changeup.
Day 6/Friday: Shoulders/Arms. Good workout. Lifted heavier.
Day 7/Saturday: Legs/Lower Back. Cardio 10 mins Elliptical.

*Slight irritability this week (possibly from diet?). Highly motivated, disciplined, good mood, excited and energized overall.

Weights: 6/7 days (179 sets). Cardio: 4/7 days (75 mins).

WK 2: 12/16/18 - 12/22/18 - Weekly Average Weight: 186

Day 8/Sunday: Weight: 189. Rest Day from weights. Cardio: 30 mins Elliptical.
Day 9/Monday: Chest/Back. Strength boost on wide-grip pull-ups, and Deadlifts. Cardio 15 mins Elliptical.
Day 10/Tuesday: AM: Shoulders/Cardio 15 mins. PM: Arms. Good workouts.
Day 11/Wednesday: Legs/Lower Back. Felt good. Cardio 15 mins.
Day 12/Thursday: Chest/Back. Stronger and more muscular-endurance on chin-ups and pull-ups. Cardio 15 mins.
Day 13/Friday: Cardio 15 mins. Shoulders/Arms w/ Training Partner (Dustin). Trained to total-muscular-failure on close-grip press. Supersets (“I Go/You Go”) on biceps curls.
Day 14/Saturday: Legs/Lower Back. Cardio 15 mins.

*Still slightly irritable, mostly earlier in the week. Highly motivated, disciplined, good mood, excited and energized overall.

Weights: 6/7 days (207 sets). Cardio: 7/7 days (120 mins).

WK 3: 12/23/18 - 12/29/18 - Weekly Average Weight: 186

Day 15/Sunday: Weight: 186. Rest day. Cardio (Elliptical) 30 mins. Cheat meal.
Day 16/Monday: X-Mas Eve/Rest. Cardio (Elliptical) 20 mins. Lats seem bigger.
Day 17/Tuesday: X-Mas/Rest.
Day 18/Wednesday: Legs/Lower Back. Cardio (Elliptical) 10 mins. Slight mental energy lag due to holiday/break/new schedule.
Day 19/Thursday: Chest/Back. Cardio 15 mins.
Day 20/Friday: Rest. Deep-tissue Massage.
Day 21/Saturday: Rest. Noticing some quad size developing lately.

*This Holiday week had some scheduling issues, as well as too many training breaks and cheat meals, though I did feel that a slight de-load from training may be beneficial.

Weight-lifting: 2/7 days (61 sets). Cardio: 4/7 days (75 mins).

WK 4: 12/30/18 - 1/5/19 - [Day 28 Weight: 185] Weekly Average Weight: 186

Day 22/Sunday: Weight: 186. Rest Day from weights. Cardio: 10 mins Elliptical.
Day 23/Monday: New Year’s Eve/Rest.
Day 24/Tuesday: New Year’s Day/Rest.
Day 25/Wednesday: Legs. Very short session.
Day 26/Thursday: Chest/Back. Aggression and Strength on Dumbbell Bench Presses and Chins/Pull Ups. Building momentum and drive back up. Cardio 5 mins Elliptical.
Day 27/Friday: Shoulders/Arms. Good mood during workout. Momentum and drive building up. Cardio 5 mins Elliptical.
Day 28/Saturday: Cardio 15 mins Elliptical.

*Regained some momentum, motivation, structure and discipline throughout the week, and into the New Year, after the Holidays’ schedule, diet and de-load from training. Have seen consistent increase in muscular endurance, aggression and flexibility, as well as strength and size gains this first month. Have probably lost about 2-4 pounds in the first 4 weeks, despite the holiday lag; Excited for Month 2!

Weight-lifting: 3/7 days (39 sets). Cardio: 3/7 days (35 mins).

WK 5: 1/6/19 - 1/12/19 - [Day 30 Weight: 185] Weekly Average Weight: 184

Day 29/Sunday: Weight: 184. Rest day from weights. Cardio (Elliptical) 30 mins. Cheat meal. Midsection looking more cut.
Day 30/Monday: Chest/Back. Light day (Chest w/ Barbells), high-rep range. Cardio (Elliptical) 5 mins. Torso, shoulders and chest looking more solid.
Day 31/Tuesday: Shoulders/Arms. Light and short workout. Cardio (Elliptical) 10 mins. Inner-arms and forearms looking more dry and cut throughout, over the last couple of days. Glutes gaining some size.
Day 32/Wednesday: Legs/Lower Back. Light and short. Cardio (Elliptical) 5 mins. Lower-inner chest mass and hardening noticed.
Day 33/Thursday: Chest/Back. Light. Multi-Exercise Sets. Cardio (Elliptical)10 mins. Felt strong and explosive. Looking more vascular (forearm veins).
Day 34/Friday: Legs/Lower Back. Light. Cardio (Elliptical) 5 mins.
Day 35/Saturday: Cardio (Elliptical) 5 mins. Chest. Great workout w/ New Training-Partner (Jordan), new exercises/routine. Heavy. Strong. PR on Bench Press. Trained to muscular failure.

*Good consistency/frequency= more intensity. New, weekend training-partner!

Weight-lifting: 6/7 days (89 sets). Cardio: 7/7 days (70 mins).

WK 6: 1/13/19 - 1/19/19 - Weekly Average Weight: 181

Day 36/Sunday: Weight: 183. Cardio: Steps 5mins. Back/Bis w/ Jordan. Strong!
Day 37/Monday: Rest (lifting & cardio). Bicep peak appears bigger & Deltoid connection appears more separated due to cutting. More Solid/Hard.
Day 38/Tuesday: Shoulders/Arms. Multi-Exercise Sets. Complete temporary muscular-failure w/ workout partner Dustin. PR on Clean & Press. Strength, endurance & aggressive AF!
Day 39/Wednesday: Rest.
Day 40/Thursday: AM: Chest/Legs. PM: Legs/Back. PR for Squats, PR on Pull-ups. Cardio: Elliptical 10 mins. Strong & aggressive! Great feeling in the gym.
Day 41/Friday: Shoulders/Triceps Light.
Day 42/Saturday: Hamstrings. Chest/Back w/ Jordan. Cardio: Resist.-Bike: 5m. Bloodwork.

*New workouts & schedule change-ups to shock muscles after months of consistent progress on similar routine (lots of compound movements). Positive evolution of lifestyle to accommodate increasing intensity in diet & training!

Lifting: 5/7 days (104 sets). Cardio: 3/7 days (20 mins).

 

[kid101]

Historically, I have had probably 4 years of training on-and-off, combined, in my late-teens and 20's, mainly (the longest stretch I tracked being about 9 months straight). Last year, I began working out again after about 5 years off, and was consistent the whole year, always increasing intensity. I started out going a couple times a week, and worked up to about 6 times a week by the end of the year, as well as dialed in my diet.

The first pic was taken the first week into my 1st SARMS cycle (Summer Cut) on 7-2-18. The Second pic was taken yesterday, 6 weeks into my 2nd SARMs cycle (Winter Cut) on 1-18-19.

Can anyone estimate my body fat at the moment, I would love to hear, as well as any other feedback?

I'm 35 yo
180 lbs (in both pics)
5'11.5"

Thanks guys!!!

 

[kid101]

BF %:

Day 11: 188 lbs.
My gym's InBody230 Body Scanner (you stand on, as well as hold hand-sensors) showed about 13% BF

Day 39: 180 lbs.
My gym's InBody230 body scanner showed 11% BF
Hand-held body scanner at gym showed 14%
At-home smart scale (stand on) showed 13%

 

[Aussymatt]

BF %:

Day 11: 188 lbs.
My gym's InBody230 Body Scanner (you stand on, as well as hold hand-sensors) showed about 13% BF

Day 39: 180 lbs.
My gym's InBody230 body scanner showed 11% BF
Hand-held body scanner at gym showed 14%
At-home smart scale (stand on) showed 13%

To be honest mate your photos defiantly show me that you are higher then around 13%. Im near 13% and have a look at some of my logs . Id say your more around the 15-17 %

 

[kid101]

Ya, I agree, I was surprised and thought I was definitely at a higher BF % too. I've seen your logs!! Thanks for helping me figure it out man

 

[DylanGemelli]

yeah bro, your body fat is closer to 20 or a little higher... its absolutely not 15 at all...

 

[kid101]

that makes sense. Thanks, bro

 

[kid101]

Hey guys, I’d appreciate a little advice: I just got my bloodwork back, and my Test is very low at 6 weeks Mid-2nd SARMS Cycle, and lower than it was at 8/12 wks on my 1st SARMS Cycle.

1st SARMS cycle:
When I found out my test was lower than expected on my first SARMS cycle, I figured maybe it was because I had waited until almost week 9 before getting bloodwork, as well as that I have done AAS in the past, though not for over 5 years. I understood from advice given here that I should still recover from the suppression of my 1st cycle, because my LH/FSH was not shutdown.

So, I finished the cycle, and took DGA Post CT during weeks 9-12, as well as added it in during PCT, then took a month off and got bloodwork again. My test levels were back in the normal range, though not quite as high as before cycle, so I took DGA Post CT for about another month, as was suggested, and then started my 2nd SARMS cycle.



2nd SARMS Cycle:
I decided that since I was trying a new batch of SARMS, and it was my second time around, I’d increased the doses of the Rad and S4 slightly (still within the recommended does, but on the high-end), get bloodwork exactly at 6 weeks, and assess. I did not use a natural test booster during this time though, to give my body a break, so that I could utilize it again for up to 3 months in a row, if needed. (I can still get hard and everything, but balls have definitely shrank up the last couple weeks)


My Overall Goals are to continue to build base of size and strength, while cutting until at a low enough percentage of BF to do a Test only cycle of 350 mg/wk this summer. I love the performance enhancements of the SARMS, but as low as my test gets, I’d rather do one AAS cycle a year for maybe the next 5 years, until I eventually need TRT, and then blast and cruise after that.


Am I currently at risk of complete shutdown? Or will I likely recover like last time because LH/FSH is still ok? Should I stop the cycle, start PCT and DGA Post CT? Should I finish the cycle, take DGA for the next 3 months and prepare for the possibility of full PCT?


Additionally, there has been one other consistently low value (MCHC) for the last 3 bloods, which was suggested I watch and could be due to low iron. I’m thinking of supplementing iron (25mg) until the next time I get bloodwork. Thoughts…

Also, my IGF-1 levels are less at month 6 than at month 4 on MK677. I dose at night, and got bloods drawn, fasted, in the morning. Should levels fluctuate?



Thanks in advance, for any information from this knowledgable board is greatly appreciated.

 

[kid101]

Here is Mid-Cycle Bloods:

 

[kid101]

Here is last 3 Bloods of First SARMS Cycle:

Pre-Cycle Blood Work (March 2018):

Total Test: 751 (240-871)
Estradiol: 18.2 (10-42)
LH: 5.4 (0.6-12.1)

Mid-Cycle Blood Work (August 2018)

TEST: 179.28 (123.06-813.06)
E2: 21 (0-40)
LH: 2.05 (1.7-8.6)
FSH: 4.7 (91.5-12.4)

POST-CYCLE BLOODWORK (NOVEMBER 2018)

TEST: 473.15 (123.06-813.06)
E2: 28 (0-40)
LH: 3.29 (1.7-8.6)
FSH: 4.7 (1.5 - 12.4)
IGF-1: 211 (88-246)

 

[Aussymatt]

Did you get pre-bloods on this second cycle to see if your POST cycle test levels from November have climbed at all? 473 isn't terrible but it aint 750 either .

 

[kid101]

Good point. Regrettably, I did not. I considered my Post-cyle bloods to be good enough for my pre-cycle bloods because I figured that at much as my test had risen in 4 weeks of pct, that 4 more weeks of more of natural test boost would take me high enough to start the cycle...

 

[kid101]

I had already done twice the recommended time off, and 3x's the recommended natural test boost, so I figured I'd be ok.

 

[Aussymatt]

That should defiantly had helped taking that extra time between cycles . I guess the benefits of bloods is you have hard facts and a chart you can use for future cycles to see how well you recover. Generally as you get older recovery phases can take longer. Of course diet , lifestyle , bf % etc can all affect this .

 

[kid101]

yes, it is an invaluable tool to have the hard facts