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Second Deca Cycle

Lucky Sob

1-4: Tbol 60 mg ED
1-15: Deca 350mg Week (5250)
1-16: Test 450 mg Week
2-16: caber .5mg EOD
13-16: HCG: 1000iu /week

Clomid 100,100, 50, 50
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1 week of Caber @.5mg EOD

Stats: 5'11 210lbs, ~9% bf, I've been off for ~6 months, looking to put on quality mass in the hopes of running a cutting cycle into a MP show next year.

Diet: Clean, last deca cycle I got up to about 4500-5k calories a day 25% of calories being fat, 300g protein, and rest in clean carbs (at the top of the bulk) and weighed in at about 225. I noticed a bit of water retention last cycle so I'm going to start off after a cut (leaner at the beginning) and watch the sodium consumption.

Lucky Sob

Sorry Dylan, I highly value your opinion and enjoy all of your videos. I just was hoping you'd peak at dosages and give me the thumbs up or down. I've done a lot of research but always feel better coming for a second opinion!


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Your PCT could be a lot better, I'm sure Dylan will explain fully!

Btw you've clearly got yourself in excellent shape and know how to eat properly so big respect for that.


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you can go six weeks with tbol but you need protection along with it.. dga organ st should be used..

i prefer to see 350/350 test to deca but you should be fine with these doses... you are running WAY too much caber here... .25 mg every 3 days is more than enough and you do not need it in pct... dont take it anymore than necessary... your pct definitely needs work...

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.

clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day