Recomping on my 2nd cycle

[Zindsyg]

Hi guys, first time posting here, I'm looking for some advice here.
I've done one cycle before, with just Test had some awesome results.
atm I'm:
28 years, 5,9' , 15% BF, been training for 12 years, done one cycle with Test E 12wk 400mg/wk, with a full PCT ofc.

now I want to do my second cycle and I would like to do a recomp/cut cycle if that is even possible?.
so I was thinking of doing (im still researching and learning)
12 weeks,
week 1-12: Test E 500 mg/wk
week 1-4: Tbol 50mg/ day (to kickstart and help me recomp)
week 9-12: Winstrol 50mg/day
week 10-12: HCG
week 12-14: Nolvadex/Clomid

I was thinking I would bulk up until I start the cycle, then recomp for the first 4 weeks and then start a cut, when running just the test and then finish off to get really lean and hard with winstrol

My question is, how does one go about Recompositioning? other than the drugs.
Any form of training? (other than weights ofc.) metabolic conditioning AND cardio? or just metcon?
And the diet ofc is important? but how does it work?? cut on the weekdays, bulk on the weekends or? xD
I know how to bulk and cut, but doing it at the same time, I would like to learn, and can't seem to find anything about it online.


so, I'm here to learn throw your knowledge at me! ^_^
Thanks in advance

 

[SdBronco]

First off, what is your weight?

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[EZ_E]

You need to post your COMPLETE stats;

Age
Height
Weight
Body fat %
Years of training
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run)
PCT for each cycle
Goals
Supplements (if any)
General idea of nutrition
Any other relevant info (injuries, surgeries you've had, etc.)

Be honest; don't write what you think we want to hear

Also; read this:

https://www.isarms.com/forums/stero...w-here-read-been-here-ready-anyway-10368.html

 

[Zindsyg]

oh yeah forgot to post my weight, 105 kg (230 lbs ish)

 

[Roidrage718]

To recomp, you have to eat as clean as possible but keep it a bit above maintenance calories. Lift like you're bulking (heavier weights, less reps) but also work in as much cardio as if you were cutting. Manage your diet and carb intake so you bias your carbs around your lifting, and minimize them around cardio.

Now about your layout............

First off you don't need HCG. U should wait 2 weeks after u stop the test to begin your PCT (which should be 4 weeks by the way), and you can run the winny right up to PCT. I also don't see an anti-estrogen anywhere in there, so Arimadex is a must throughout cycle and pct.

Lastly, 15% is a little high to be running cycles. U didn't list your weight but I think your goal should be more of a cut then a recomp at this point. Get that bf% down to 10-12% at least and you'll see much better results.

 

[Zindsyg]

didnt I cover most of that in my post?
age: 28
height 180 cm 5,9"
weight: 105 kg (230 lsb)
years of training: 12 almost 13
done one cycle for pure Test E 400 mg/wk
used Nolva 40/40/20 and Clomid 100/100/50
my new goal is, recomping and from there hardcore summercut
suppliments atm is: whey protein 2 scoops post workout with eggwhites and oats blended. NO2 booster preworkout, c4 x50 1½ scoops pre, animal pak, fishoil, zma before bed.
I eat pretty clean, 3200 kal a day atm, mostly meal# 1 eggwhites and oats in the morning, from there meal #2 chicken breast with sweetpotatos meal #3 pre workout rice and chicken meal #4 post workout rice and chicken, meal #5 dinner is what ever im making for my family mostly lean meats, rice or root veggies or green veggies meal #6 greek yogurt with a scoop of whey.
I drink about 5 liters of water a day.
I have never had any injuries, a pinched shoulder i properbly the worst Ive had.


need more info, just ask ^_^

 

[Zindsyg]

alright thanks man

oh yeah forgot you write that (as I said Im new here ^_^) I plan to use Arimadex .5 mg eod from start to finish. and maybe i wrote it wrong I plan to use hcg the last two seeks of the cycle and then two weeks after that while the esters are clearing and then start a pct with nolva and clomid. but if I dont need the hcg i might as well save the money.
and yes I am planing on bulk up during this winter but then come january start getting my BF % down to about 10 before i start the cycle late march... does that make sense to you?

any input you can give me is appriciated, Im here to learn, and as I said im still researching and learning about that cycle nothing is set in stone yet.

 

[EZ_E]

Much better. A few observations (bumping Roidrage)

You're carrying 34 pounds of fat. At 5'9 that is not optimal for a cycle. One of the reasons; rice, potatoes, rice again , yogurt...you're eating a bulking diet.

Soooooo; change up your diet & cardio (possibly training)to drop BF. When you get there the AAS will have a much better impact.

 

[Zindsyg]

alright! I will definetly look in to that! thank you very much!

 

[DylanGemelli]

alright! I will definetly look in to that! thank you very much!

you have a really good attitude bro and i like that a lot... you want to get your body fat into an optimal range for a cycle for several reasons... obviously you are more susceptible to side effects at a higher body fat but you will also never get what you are supposed out of a cycle when you are not in the proper condition... i can help you with your body fat... if you are not familiar with sarms, start with my articles here... https://www.isarms.com/selective-androgen-receptor-modulators

let me know and i would be happy to help you set up a cutting cycle

 

[EZ_E]

alright! I will definetly look in to that! thank you very much!

We got you

 

[buen]

Hi brother...you've come to the right place to get some solid info and help reaching your goals
Please accept this with my good intentions
You may need to change up what you think you already know...
A couple read flags... you've been training 12 yrs and you are at 15% BF
This indicates improper diet and or training
At 15% BF.... "bulking" shouldn't even be in your vocabulary
You are currently eating 1000 calories above where you to need be for a recomp

 

[Zindsyg]

thank alot man!
alright it makes sense with the BF level
and I know a bit from your youtube videos, I've been following for a long time. but I'll definitely give it a read!

and thanks, I'll let you know for sure!

 

[RickRock]

I definitely think sarms would be a far better option for you right now. You can still recomp with the right stack and diet.

I don't think it's the wise move to jump into a steroid cycle quite yet. Sarms are the perfect alternative for you, and you don't have to worry about the bad side effects and suppression like steroids have.

I think the perfect stack for you would be the ultra Recomp stack from www.sarmsx.com

Here is how that whole protocol is laid out

1-12 LGD 10mg ED dosed in the am
1-12 RAD140 20mg ED dosed in the am
1-12 S4 50mg per day split 25mg am and 25mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW 20mg ED dosed 30 minutes preworkout

PCT

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day



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[DylanGemelli]

heres a really strong sarms stack that can truly help you get to where you need and want to be... i am including the links to get everything you need followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-off-gw-501516

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-s4-andarine

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-testolone-rad-140

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138&search=mini

1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[Zindsyg]

Alright so I've been reading alot about sarms and watching a lot of Dylans videos
and I think I'm going to follow your guy's advice, and drop the roid cycle and start with a Sarms cycle.

so... if I want to do a recomp cycle this comming spring,(late march- june, 12 weeks)
I have a few questions:
for recomp if I want to run 2-3 sarms in a stack.
LGD-4033
RAD-140
S-4
so I have the LGD Tbol like strength, RA the test like effect and s-4 winstol like and fat melting? or have I got that completly wrong?

are they a good match? what is the optimal dosing pr day (and when, during the dag? am or pm, PWO?) how manys bottels of each will I need?

and is a mini pct like the liquidclo and gw-501516 enough?

do my BF% need to be in a certain range? (ofc, i know the lower the better, and im planing on cutting start january, just to be as ready as possible)



all input is appriciated (and sorry if I've misspelled alot of words, english is a second language to me ^_^)

 

[DylanGemelli]

Alright so I've been reading alot about sarms and watching a lot of Dylans videos
and I think I'm going to follow your guy's advice, and drop the roid cycle and start with a Sarms cycle.

so... if I want to do a recomp cycle this comming spring,(late march- june, 12 weeks)
I have a few questions:
for recomp if I want to run 2-3 sarms in a stack.
LGD-4033
RAD-140
S-4
so I have the LGD Tbol like strength, RA the test like effect and s-4 winstol like and fat melting? or have I got that completly wrong?

are they a good match? what is the optimal dosing pr day (and when, during the dag? am or pm, PWO?) how manys bottels of each will I need?

and is a mini pct like the liquidclo and gw-501516 enough?

do my BF% need to be in a certain range? (ofc, i know the lower the better, and im planing on cutting start january, just to be as ready as possible)



all input is appriciated (and sorry if I've misspelled alot of words, english is a second language to me ^_^)

are they a good match? no, they are a PERFECT match... way more than good... this is called the power stack... im going to give you the links for everything you need followed by the layout... NO your bodyfat with sarms does not have to be in any range... you need 6 rad bottles and 3 each of lgd and s4...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=134&search=power

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138&search=mini

1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[Zindsyg]

perfect! thank you so much Dylan!

 

[DylanGemelli]

perfect! thank you so much Dylan!

absolutely brother, im happy to help!