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Proviron or deca on TRT

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TexasTrash

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If Im on 150mg test TRT and decide to do a blast (just a simple increase in Test dosages) how long before dropping back down to TRT doses should I wait before stacking on proviron? How about stacking on deca (150mg Test / 150mg Deca)?

Is it the normal, "time off should be greater than or equal to time on (blast)" or does that not apply for TRT guys? To me it seems that there may be different rules for proviron and deca since a 150/150 deca/test cruise seems more like a cycle than simply stacking proviron on the 150mg Test. I welcome any thoughts on these questions or additional ideas. Thanks!
 
U can run Proviron all year round just take a 4 week break every 3 months or so. It's non toxic and can be used on cycle or trt or both. I know Dylan runs it like that. And u certainly can run deca with Ur trt at that dose. A lot of guys here do. Run all 3 with Ur trt won't hurt a bit
 
cmb5017 said:
U can run Proviron all year round just take a 4 week break every 3 months or so. It's non toxic and can be used on cycle or trt or both. I know Dylan runs it like that. And u certainly can run deca with Ur trt at that dose. A lot of guys here do. Run all 3 with Ur trt won't hurt a bit
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LOL I was just going back to add that I am looking to to run only one additional compound at a time. Im a weirdo that wants to know EXACTLY what each compound does to my body.

If you hadnt been such a quick draw, I would have had that in the original post. Haha Thanks Brotha.
 
Well Proviron is a nice addition to anything and has no toxicity. Deca and test work well on trt as well. Either is good. But it won't hurt a thing adding all 3. I do
 
there's no need whatsoever to run proviron on its own at any time... that's not something your going to really notice on its own... its more of a support to everything else and that's how it shines... your simply wasting time treating it as you would a much stronger compound but when its ran in conjunction with others, then you can really see it shine... think of albuterol where on its own, its not going to show a tremendous amount of anything but stacked with other strong cutters, its provides a lot of support... you need to go test 150, deca 150 and proviron 50 mg per day... cmb told you exactly how i run proviron and that's the method to go about it... the best cruises that ive done are just like this with GW-501516... those are the cruises that flat out shine...

to answer your question on the blast... its always going to be time on = time off... the difference is your time on and off is much short because your not adding in a pct nor ester clearance time frame so your saving anywhere from 4-8 extra weeks depending on esters you have chose combined with pct length...
 
DylanGemelli said:
there's no need whatsoever to run proviron on its own at any time... that's not something your going to really notice on its own... its more of a support to everything else and that's how it shines... your simply wasting time treating it as you would a much stronger compound but when its ran in conjunction with others, then you can really see it shine... think of albuterol where on its own, its not going to show a tremendous amount of anything but stacked with other strong cutters, its provides a lot of support... you need to go test 150, deca 150 and proviron 50 mg per day... cmb told you exactly how i run proviron and that's the method to go about it... the best cruises that ive done are just like this with GW-501516... those are the cruises that flat out shine...

to answer your question on the blast... its always going to be time on = time off... the difference is your time on and off is much short because your not adding in a pct nor ester clearance time frame so your saving anywhere from 4-8 extra weeks depending on esters you have chose combined with pct length...
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Please let me clarify, I am looking to add one compound to test so it would be test/proviron or test/deca (yes, I understand they would produce different affects).

The main question I had at this point is would I wait 12 weeks after dropping test from blast to TRT levels before starting test/deca (150/150)? If I am reading your response correctly, I would indeed wait 12 weeks.
I gather that if I finished blast and went to TRT levels I could start proviron right away.
 
TexasTrash said:
Please let me clarify, I am looking to add one compound to test so it would be test/proviron or test/deca (yes, I understand they would produce different affects).

The main question I had at this point is would I wait 12 weeks after dropping test from blast to TRT levels before starting test/deca (150/150)? If I am reading your response correctly, I would indeed wait 12 weeks.
I gather that if I finished blast and went to TRT levels I could start proviron right away.
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bro, i think your confused... big time... One, don't waste your time just running proviron alone with test if your considering deca... run test and deca 150 each... that is a cruise on each... you can start a cruise immediately after finishing your blast... you don't blast and then wait 12 weeks for a simple cruise... you blast and cruise... the length of your cruise needs to be at least the amount of time you were on your blast... you need to just run them all three... your overthinking big time and you could make your cruise a lot better... your not understanding proviron really should not even be considered a steroid... there's really nothing for you to evaluate on its own except the libido increase you'll see... it can help with muscle hardening to a point but your not really running three steroids in reality... on paper you would be but in reality you would not be...
 
DylanGemelli said:
bro, i think your confused... big time... One, don't waste your time just running proviron alone with test if your considering deca... run test and deca 150 each... that is a cruise on each... you can start a cruise immediately after finishing your blast... you don't blast and then wait 12 weeks for a simple cruise... you blast and cruise... the length of your cruise needs to be at least the amount of time you were on your blast... you need to just run them all three... your overthinking big time and you could make your cruise a lot better... your not understanding proviron really should not even be considered a steroid... there's really nothing for you to evaluate on its own except the libido increase you'll see... it can help with muscle hardening to a point but your not really running three steroids in reality... on paper you would be but in reality you would not be...
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Ahhh, now thats the rest of the info I was hoping for. My apologies if I wasnt clear on my questions.

I kinda figured that the proviron was pretty much an anytime compound based on what Ive read here. Now I know how long to wait after blast to start 150T/150Deca cruise (0 weeks) and how long I need to cruise before next blast (equal to time on blast).

Appreciate the feedback CMB, iwannagofaster, total package, and Dylan. Based on all of your opinions it looks like deca/test cruise with proviron added.
 
TexasTrash said:
Ahhh, now thats the rest of the info I was hoping for. My apologies if I wasnt clear on my questions.

I kinda figured that the proviron was pretty much an anytime compound based on what Ive read here. Now I know how long to wait after blast to start 150T/150Deca cruise (0 weeks) and how long I need to cruise before next blast (equal to time on blast).

Appreciate the feedback CMB, iwannagofaster, total package, and Dylan. Based on all of your opinions it looks like deca/test cruise with proviron added.
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there you go! that's exactly what you want to do... your going to love that cruise...
 
You could do all 3 honestly. It's more of a cruise than just trt to me. I would recommend 100 deca/150 test but that's just what I've been enjoying. Only been on for a couple weeks though so I'm probably not really experiencing it yet. Either way 150/150 is a could cruise and 50mg proviron would be fantastic on top of that.


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I just finished up a 12 week cruise of 150/150 Test / Deca felt like I was still on cycle. I would love to add Proviron but I have an enlarged prostate and it's a no no for me since it's basically DHT in a pill.
 
I know a lot of people love Proviron, but I'm just not the biggest fan of it. I really didn't notice a damn thing when I ran it. However I'm a fan of the Deca during a cruise, or at least I'm assuming I will be. That's what I'll be doing when I enter my next cruise here in about a month 150/150 or possibly even 200/200 test to Deca and seeing how that goes
 
RickRock said:
I know a lot of people love Proviron, but I'm just not the biggest fan of it. I really didn't notice a damn thing when I ran it. However I'm a fan of the Deca during a cruise, or at least I'm assuming I will be. That's what I'll be doing when I enter my next cruise here in about a month 150/150 or possibly even 200/200 test to Deca and seeing how that goes
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150/150 was great for me... I didn't really see tremendous gains but I felt awesome and had really great workouts.
 
TexasTrash said:
If Im on 150mg test TRT and decide to do a blast (just a simple increase in Test dosages) how long before dropping back down to TRT doses should I wait before stacking on proviron? How about stacking on deca (150mg Test / 150mg Deca)?

Is it the normal, "time off should be greater than or equal to time on (blast)" or does that not apply for TRT guys? To me it seems that there may be different rules for proviron and deca since a 150/150 deca/test cruise seems more like a cycle than simply stacking proviron on the 150mg Test. I welcome any thoughts on these questions or additional ideas. Thanks!
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It is like comparing oranges and apples - proviron is a completely different compound, and you can use it for a really long time without any problems, as it will not cause any side effects, nor is it suppressive. Yet it will increase test levels, and slightly reduce estrogen levels. I use it all the time, and I love it - gives a good test kick, and causes no problems at all.
 
as ive said several times, the 150/150 protocol is basically better than a cycle and you will see as you run it... it always sounds so low to many and it did to me as well but after running it and seeing with my own eyes how well it works, its something i will be implementing from now on... i highly recommend these doses... one thing to consider adding that goes together so well with this is GW-501516... its an amazing combination...
 
DylanGemelli said:
as ive said several times, the 150/150 protocol is basically better than a cycle and you will see as you run it... it always sounds so low to many and it did to me as well but after running it and seeing with my own eyes how well it works, its something i will be implementing from now on... i highly recommend these doses... one thing to consider adding that goes together so well with this is GW-501516... its an amazing combination...
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Can the proviron be a help to some of deca's sides, like using it instead of having caber around?
 
Maxadvance said:
Can the proviron be a help to some of deca's sides, like using it instead of having caber around?
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I would never recommend Proviron be used for that purpose to substitute caber. Proviron is not going to affect your prolactin levels in any way. You still should always have caber on hand, even if running Deca at a low dose


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DylanGemelli said:
as ive said several times, the 150/150 protocol is basically better than a cycle and you will see as you run it... it always sounds so low to many and it did to me as well but after running it and seeing with my own eyes how well it works, its something i will be implementing from now on... i highly recommend these doses... one thing to consider adding that goes together so well with this is GW-501516... its an amazing combination...
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I also agree with this. I will be using GW with my test/Deca cruise myself.


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