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Hello Dylan,
I am a huge fan of yours and have watched and supported every single one of your videos. I am a 20 year old who is absolutely obsessed with body building and everything it has to offer. About four months ago I ran a 12 week test e cycle at 500 a week along with dbol at 30-40 mg for 4 weeks (my first cycle.) I ran hcg and nolvadex as my PCT and used aromasin while on cycle. I noticed that after my cycle, I progressively had little to no sex drive and was experiencing all the side effects of low testosterone. After getting my blood work done this past week, I have very low test and am very concerned on how to reboot it. I was referred to a specialist and am going to set up an appointment with them, however wanted to get your advice as well. I am worried my receptors are burned out and there is no way for me to reboot my test levels. I am assuming the doctor I am going to see is going to try to prescribe me clomid, yet was curious if it is too late and I can no longer bring my test levels back up to normal. Please reach back to me as soon as possible and I really appreciate your time and efforts.
Thanks,
 
your problem is that you ran hcg in pct which was the worst thing you could do in pct but the WORST thing and MOST IGNORANT thing you did was use steroids at 20 years old... go to your doctor bro, i dont want to have anything to do with advising a 20 year odl anything except to not use steroids but using hcg in pct made things so much worse for you... you need to run a proper pct... i can help you with that but thats it, i want nothing to do with any steroid use advisement for you... you fucked up bro and if there are consequences, you are just going to have to accept them but running a proper pct is the first step... i would use an EIGHT week pct...



when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…








here is the link to purchase the entire pct stack followed by the layout...




https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133



clomid 50/50/50/50/25/25/25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day ONLY FOUR WEEKS of MK2866 (8 weeks of everything else)
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
You can't run HCG in pct and spect to recover bro. That's basically like staying on. You need to run it before pct at the end of your cycle. Nolva alone isn't a full pct either. The pct Dylan posted is what you need to run
 
Just to give an update ....
It has been about 5-6 months since the end of my pct from that cycle. I finally went in to see a doctor since my levels didn't recover like I thought they would and he prescribed me hcg. The dosing is 2500 three times a week for 3.5 weeks. He claimed clomid wouldn't do anything for me since my blood work
Showed that my pituitary gland levels were normal. I trusted him since he is an endocrinologist and decided to go on his protocol. It has been exactly one week and i have more erections and feel way more aggressive in the gym. Signs of low test such as fatigue and depression and no sex drive slowly fading but hopefully will be much better at the end of the 3.5 weeks. If my bloodwork comes back and my test is still low, should I run the 8 week protocol, and if so should I give myself some time until I run it since I just ran hcg. Thanks so much I'm really in need of advice
 
dude, hcg is not what you want right now LOL UNREAL thats what he is giving you ... wtf!! you need to do exactly what i tell you... you are going to further suppress yourself with hcg when you stop using it...
 
Okay I'm trusting you over my doctor. I had mixed feelings due to the fact that this doctor is supposed to be one of the best in the area but I can tell he isn't really aware of how to handle steroid users situations. Could I run the clomid and nolva protocol you gave me and not buy the other compounds? Bottom line is I can't afford the 700 dollar price of the stack you gave me. Not that I don't value my health and realize how serious this is but I simply do not have that cash. Thank you so much for your help. Do you recommend I stop taking the HCG right now and wait for my clomid and nolva shipment to arrive, then take the 8 week protocol immediately?
 
vaneers1 said:
Okay I'm trusting you over my doctor. I had mixed feelings due to the fact that this doctor is supposed to be one of the best in the area but I can tell he isn't really aware of how to handle steroid users situations. Could I run the clomid and nolva protocol you gave me and not buy the other compounds? Bottom line is I can't afford the 700 dollar price of the stack you gave me. Not that I don't value my health and realize how serious this is but I simply do not have that cash. Thank you so much for your help. Do you recommend I stop taking the HCG right now and wait for my clomid and nolva shipment to arrive, then take the 8 week protocol immediately?
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you can just stick with your doctor bro... thats fine... im just telling you, thats fucking crazy... but like you said, thats the best doctor so im not going to get involved... its flat ass wrong though
 
Dylan,
I said I would trust you over my doctor. I really do value your opinion and have tons of respect for you. To be completely honest, I'm in a bad place right now. As you said I lost most of my gains from that cycle (nearly every lift down 25 lbs) , low libido, and over all low well being. I thought my nolva hcg protocol would be enough and was obviously wrong. I have heard many different things about hcg and not to disrepesct you but most of them say to take it during pct. I took mine after my last pin and ran it with the first two weeks of my nolva. Do you think runnin the 8 week clomid and nolva will be more beneficial than the hcg, and should I stop the hcg right now. Thank you so much for your time .
 
And my research on hcg usage is coming from pro body builders not random forums. For ex, Seth feroce just came out with a pct video that included hcg, clomid, and nolva. No disrespect towards you, but as a kid looking for answers, it's hard to understand who to trust.
 
vaneers1 said:
Dylan,
I said I would trust you over my doctor. I really do value your opinion and have tons of respect for you. To be completely honest, I'm in a bad place right now. As you said I lost most of my gains from that cycle (nearly every lift down 25 lbs) , low libido, and over all low well being. I thought my nolva hcg protocol would be enough and was obviously wrong. I have heard many different things about hcg and not to disrepesct you but most of them say to take it during pct. I took mine after my last pin and ran it with the first two weeks of my nolva. Do you think runnin the 8 week clomid and nolva will be more beneficial than the hcg, and should I stop the hcg right now. Thank you so much for your time .
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i just want to teach you something, not seem like im lecturing... just about hcg so you understand why i get so pissed about people being advised to use it to recover... so, when you use testosterone, you are clearly adding large amounts of it into your body which causes you to eventually be suppressed when you stop using it because your body forgets how to produce it on its own... hence, the need for pct... so, what hcg does is MIMIC your lh and fsh, just like taking testosterone, mimics testosterone production which eventually leads to suppression, correct... so when you mimic lh and fsh, what happens when you stop using it?? im sure you can put two and two together... the reason you use hcg is to get your lh and fsh STIMULATED before pct, so they are not completely bottomed out because when you use test, they are non existent... just like when you run an oral without test... when you go into pct, your test is bottomed out.... when you into pct using test, AT LEAST its much higher making recovery easier as you reteach your body to produce on its own... so if you use hcg BEFORE pct, then it gives that boost while your body learns how to produce on its own... HOWEVER, if you run hcg IN PCT or after, you end up suppressing yourself because you are just mimicking, not helping to jumpstart anything like nolva and clomid do for your natural testosterone production... NOT TO MENTION, hcg ALSO increases estrogen... so, i just want you to FULLY understand so you dont think its just someone talking and blowing smoke... this is fact... its easy to understand when you see it written down...
 
Thank you for your advice and time. I know I am asking a lot of you but what do you recommend for my next plan of action.. jump immediately into the 8 week clomid nolva only protocol and stop the hcg immediately or stop hcg and wait to start the clomid and nolva .. I cannot thank you enough for your help
Dylan ..
 
vaneers1 said:
Thank you for your advice and time. I know I am asking a lot of you but what do you recommend for my next plan of action.. jump immediately into the 8 week clomid nolva only protocol and stop the hcg immediately or stop hcg and wait to start the clomid and nolva .. I cannot thank you enough for your help
Dylan ..
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stop hcg and start nolva and clomid now...
 
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