Just started feeling better from over doing it with Aromasin

[RickRock]

I went through this three times post blast . Everytime i come off a heavy cycle my anxiety skyrockets the previous two times it happened i came off completely once with nothing cold turkey. The second time i ran a light pct nolva and hcg with arimidex my anxiety got so bad post cycle i had to hop on SSRI to be chill or else i had the same symtoms dizzy feeling lightheaded like i couldnt focus worried. Then theres this time not as brutal but still anxious. Its very annoying frustrating i wish i could figure it out. BUT as rick eluded to before maybe its ANXIETY and im just an anxious guy nothing i could do about. And as Phurious has said before i changed doses and compounds alot during my last cycle. I learned so much this run. Phurious helped me alot. I def learned theres no reason to go high on dosing and i also learned i guess by trying so many compounds what works for me. I think im going to stick to what i know works for me and thats it. If anyone knows how to solve this anxiety problem please please throw me a line of advice


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Unfortunately anxiety is one of those things that really only you can cure. Nobody else can really help you with that. You can get prescriptions to help you out, but it doesn't actually fix the real problem. You'll just have to find a way somehow to make yourself relax a bit on cycle and off bro.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Oh ok...I thought I was fixing to learn something new lol..bout to reevaluate past numbers lol

LOL no it wont affect numbers at all but clearly from all of his posts, there a sense of paranoia and ocd that is really bad and working against him... its so evident in all the posts... that can be a fucking gains killer... all of that anxiety alone can fucking jack your cortisol levels and that flat out ruins your gains.. not to mention the overboard amount of over thinking which will completely work against you.. he has to get it under control big time or there wont be any progress made...

 

[PHURIOUS]

You obviously know how to put in the work and all that. Your physique shows that But next cycle. Pick your compounds and doses and plan it out. And stick w it. And you will be much better off.

Also maybe you are better candidate for blast and cruise. Seems like when u pct or go cold turkey you have issuss.

Do you have an addicted personality. Could be more of like a come down for you that makes this happen. Like an addict going thru withdrawals

Blasting and cruisjng can help. You run your blast and then go right into a test only low dose cruise for a few months then back to blast. Much more stable and you keep your gains

 

[bigunitny]

You obviously know how to put in the work and all that. Your physique shows that But next cycle. Pick your compounds and doses and plan it out. And stick w it. And you will be much better off.

Also maybe you are better candidate for blast and cruise. Seems like when u pct or go cold turkey you have issuss.

Do you have an addicted personality. Could be more of like a come down for you that makes this happen. Like an addict going thru withdrawals

Blasting and cruisjng can help. You run your blast and then go right into a test only low dose cruise for a few months then back to blast. Much more stable and you keep your gains

When i up dose i feel like that for days sometimes 2-3 weeks then i feel good then when i drop dose down i feel this aswell .. my estroidol was 24 my estrone was < 5 test is 1200 free test 300 and shbg is 24 anything stick out to u in that ? Only elevated #s were alt and ast and polys are low lynphos are high


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[MaxxPursuit]

Unfortunately anxiety is one of those things that really only you can cure. Nobody else can really help you with that. You can get prescriptions to help you out, but it doesn't actually fix the real problem. You'll just have to find a way somehow to make yourself relax a bit on cycle and off bro.

I'm a pretty chill guy. Never been the anxious type. I know it hits hard for guys who deal with it though. The mind is powerful..

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[PHURIOUS]

Alt and ast is kidney and liver values which will be raised becasue steroids. I think u just need to relax and stop getting blood tests. You are fine. Just cruise and try to relax and calm your mind.

 

[RickRock]

I'm a pretty chill guy. Never been the anxious type. I know it hits hard for guys who deal with it though. The mind is powerful..

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You are absolutely right. I've always been the same. I don't let much of anything get to me, and I don't have extreme highs or lows. I say pretty even keel for the most part, so it's a harder thing for me to understand but I do my best to try and help out. I know it can be a huge struggle for so many people, and I'm thankful I don't have to deal with it myself.

 

[bigunitny]

I have just reviewed one years worth of bloods and compared it to my log/journal of how i felt and at what doses i felt what so here goes:

When estroidal was below 30 i felt what i am describing to you guys as anxiety ,altered mood , very down, lethargic and that all around dizzy feeling . When my estroidal was above thirty but below 50 i was feeling great i want to try to maintin a estroidal value between 30-40 and im hoping all these problems will go away . NOW ONE FINAL QUESTION @ 225mg of test eth per week being that we now know that last weds my estroidal was at 24 and from then ive used 12.5 eod starting fri of last week and only took 6.25mg aromasin today @ what dose aromasin should i use to maintain what im looking for? ???

If someone could help me with aromasin dosing i will lay this topic to rest once and for all


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[PHURIOUS]

I have just reviewed one years worth of bloods and compared it to my log/journal of how i felt and at what doses i felt what so here goes:

When estroidal was below 30 i felt what i am describing to you guys as anxiety ,altered mood , very down, lethargic and that all around dizzy feeling . When my estroidal was above thirty but below 50 i was feeling great i want to try to maintin a estroidal value between 30-40 and im hoping all these problems will go away . NOW ONE FINAL QUESTION @ 225mg of test eth per week being that we now know that last weds my estroidal was at 24 and from then ive used 12.5 eod starting fri of last week and only took 6.25mg aromasin today @ what dose aromasin should i use to maintain what im looking for? ???

If someone could help me with aromasin dosing i will lay this topic to rest once and for all


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Bro. I love ya man. But this has to stop. The mere fact that you have a YEARS worth of bloods to review screams the source of your problems.

In the past year i have done two blood tests. Thats it. Thats really all u need. U had a pre cycle test, 2 mid cycle tests and probly more then one post cycle test. This absolutly has to stop.

Everyone having estro below 30 is going to have lethargy, achyness, altered mood etc.

Dizzyness, down feeling and anxiety are NOT symptoms of low estro. Those are signs of much more serious problems. For instance like depression. Or ocd symptoms.

The fact that you wrote you since last friday were taking 12.5mg then today took 6 is exactly why you are having these problems w estro. Thats not how you take the medicince brother.

You are scouring the forum and the internet for an answer that just doesnt exist. Every time someone talks about estrogen you are in there asking how to control it. Everytime there is a thread about trt you are in the asking about multiple doses. You have a problem. And seeing as how i consider you a friend i can tell you this. YOU NEED TO STOP AND GET SOME HELP.

When you cruise you dont change things constantly.

My cruise -
100mg test cyp every 5 days
Aromasin 12.5mg every 4 days

AND THATS IT. no tne no little bit of tren for a week and on and on.

You are constantly worrying about losing your gains, getting gyno, and your values. This to me is ocd plain and simple. Maybe go talk to a psychologist or a counselor.

You are searching and searching for an answer that just doesnt exist my friend.

 

[bigunitny]

Bro. I love ya man. But this has to stop. The mere fact that you have a YEARS worth of bloods to review screams the source of your problems.

In the past year i have done two blood tests. Thats it. Thats really all u need. U had a pre cycle test, 2 mid cycle tests and probly more then one post cycle test. This absolutly has to stop.

Everyone having estro below 30 is going to have lethargy, achyness, altered mood etc.

Dizzyness, down feeling and anxiety are NOT symptoms of low estro. Those are signs of much more serious problems. For instance like depression. Or ocd symptoms.

The fact that you wrote you since last friday were taking 12.5mg then today took 6 is exactly why you are having these problems w estro. Thats not how you take the medicince brother.

You are scouring the forum and the internet for an answer that just doesnt exist. Every time someone talks about estrogen you are in there asking how to control it. Everytime there is a thread about trt you are in the asking about multiple doses. You have a problem. And seeing as how i consider you a friend i can tell you this. YOU NEED TO STOP AND GET SOME HELP.

When you cruise you dont change things constantly.

My cruise -
100mg test cyp every 5 days
Aromasin 12.5mg every 4 days

AND THATS IT. no tne no little bit of tren for a week and on and on.

You are constantly worrying about losing your gains, getting gyno, and your values. This to me is ocd plain and simple. Maybe go talk to a psychologist or a counselor.

You are searching and searching for an answer that just doesnt exist my friend.

I needed to hear that thanks man im gonna lay low follow that protocol and hope everything works out for the best signing off for a while ttyl bbbbboys


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[bigunitny]

Bro. I love ya man. But this has to stop. The mere fact that you have a YEARS worth of bloods to review screams the source of your problems.

In the past year i have done two blood tests. Thats it. Thats really all u need. U had a pre cycle test, 2 mid cycle tests and probly more then one post cycle test. This absolutly has to stop.

Everyone having estro below 30 is going to have lethargy, achyness, altered mood etc.

Dizzyness, down feeling and anxiety are NOT symptoms of low estro. Those are signs of much more serious problems. For instance like depression. Or ocd symptoms.

The fact that you wrote you since last friday were taking 12.5mg then today took 6 is exactly why you are having these problems w estro. Thats not how you take the medicince brother.

You are scouring the forum and the internet for an answer that just doesnt exist. Every time someone talks about estrogen you are in there asking how to control it. Everytime there is a thread about trt you are in the asking about multiple doses. You have a problem. And seeing as how i consider you a friend i can tell you this. YOU NEED TO STOP AND GET SOME HELP.

When you cruise you dont change things constantly.

My cruise -
100mg test cyp every 5 days
Aromasin 12.5mg every 4 days

AND THATS IT. no tne no little bit of tren for a week and on and on.

You are constantly worrying about losing your gains, getting gyno, and your values. This to me is ocd plain and simple. Maybe go talk to a psychologist or a counselor.

You are searching and searching for an answer that just doesnt exist my friend.

I needed to hear that thanks man im gonna lay low follow that protocol and hope everything works out for the best signing off for a while ttyl bbbbboys

PHURIOUS : i saw ur bloods running that protocol and ur estrogen was 6 i cant function on 6


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[PHURIOUS]

I needed to hear that thanks man im gonna lay low follow that protocol and hope everything works out for the best signing off for a while ttyl bbbbboys


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You are gonna be alright. You just need to calm your mind.

 

[PHURIOUS]

I needed to hear that thanks man im gonna lay low follow that protocol and hope everything works out for the best signing off for a while ttyl bbbbboys

PHURIOUS : i saw ur bloods running that protocol and ur estrogen was 6 i cant function on 6


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Ya but i was taking masin eod day. It was too much. Didnt effect me but thats why it was low e4d is perfect

 

[SpikedEggnog]

Its on the way in hoping to findout today . I have felt this way in past it dropped to below 5.0 but since ditching it progressively ive been coming to . I figure maybe 12.5 e3d ive been on 4day break from it i want to at least wait until weds to restart on a e3d protocol


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you should be fine sticking with 12.5 E3D if you have estro sensitivity

 

[SpikedEggnog]

I'm a pretty chill guy. Never been the anxious type. I know it hits hard for guys who deal with it though. The mind is powerful..

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yes dude anxiety and depression can destroy your life. cant let it get the upper hand. i crashed my Estro and it messed my life up

 

[bigunitny]

yes dude anxiety and depression can destroy your life. cant let it get the upper hand. i crashed my Estro and it messed my life up

Howd u fix the problem? Laid off the ai for how long?


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[SpikedEggnog]

Howd u fix the problem? Laid off the ai for how long?


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im not the best candidate to ask that considering i am prone to depression/anxiety already AND by the time my estrogen levels were recovering i was already spiraled into a deep depression and lost my house, wife, dog, etc. My estro was fine maybe a month or so afterwards - i could feel it in my body, joints, strength, etc. BUT i had hit rock bottom already

 

[DylanGemelli]

i had an anxiety problem in my younger years as well and its something that has ran in my family... its a very terrible thing to deal with... i had a chemical imbalance which is generally the cause... it has to do with serotonin levels being off... 2 weeks on medication and i had it fixed... along with doing yoga which helped tremendously..

 

[PHURIOUS]

i had an anxiety problem in my younger years as well and its something that has ran in my family... its a very terrible thing to deal with... i had a chemical imbalance which is generally the cause... it has to do with serotonin levels being off... 2 weeks on medication and i had it fixed... along with doing yoga which helped tremendously..

And smoking weed

 

[DylanGemelli]

And smoking weed

lolll that was not the cause, trust me.. it gets me paranoid every now and then but that definitely was not it back then but you are right, it does cause a lot of people crazy anxiety because they freak out over nothing... thats one of those things where you just have to know what you can and cannot handle... im more of a connoisseur in that line so its a different story for me... LOL