why do you think i rick and i left there so long ago... bro, i started evo from scratch, with nothing.. i helped build it so do you think i walked away from all that for no reason? they are so full of shit man... about everything.. ask rick how many of the guys they put in charge of things that dont know how to tie their own fucking shoes... at one time they were great but that was so long ago... one thing led to another and to another and before you know it, it was a complete 180 and they are just horrible..