First ever cycle and advice on PCT

[sir_simmo]

Hi there from London,

I’m 33 years of age. Been in the gym since I was 18. Never made massive progression throughout the years. My best was 13 stone, which is 82kilograms or 182 pounds. For my height which is 5”4, so I suppose I look good.

Always been interested in steroids. Always doing readership, watching vids on YouTube... hence how I found this site.

I started my first cycle on 11th feb 2018. I’m doing test only for 12 weeks. 1ml injection of 400mg of tri-test.

I didn’t want to start on anything too heavy for example adding deca etc etc.

I would just like a bit of advice on my pct.

I have got a box of 50mg clomiphene citrate and a box of 1mg Anastrozole. Would this be enough for a 6 to 8 week recovery time considering I am just doing test only or do I need another product???

Your opinions are appreciated.

 

[RickRock]

You need a much more comprehensive pct than that bud. This is what it should be

clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[EZ_E]

Are you running AI on cycle?

 

[sir_simmo]

Are you running AI on cycle?

No I am not. It may sound silly, but I thought I would see how I go. If I experience issues along the way such as, itching nipples, soreness around the nipple etc, then I would. I have a few things on stand by regarding PCT. I am aware that if I use an AI I may look leaner due to having less estrogen in the body which causes the body to hold water and store unwanted fat. However right now my goals are to put mass on.

But I’m over half way through my cycle and so far no issues. If that changes, then of course I will look into it.

 

[DylanGemelli]

thats not even close to the proper pct to run and you should NOT let estrogen issues present themselves first before using an ai...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlsQCtZrKCc&t=8s






when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[EZ_E]

It doesn't sound silly, it sounds unsafe. Preventing a problem B4 it happens is a way better course of action than trying to fix a problem after it happens.

Wanting to put mass on is not an acceptable reason to exclude an AI. Anyone can run an AI and still add mass. It's been done B4.

 

[DylanGemelli]

using an ai doesnt prevent mass gain... thats ridiculous! that would insinuate that mass gain is all water... thats completely false

 

[sir_simmo]

Thanks for the info..... I didn’t even know about cortisol. But that’s why I am here... to learn.

As for the PCT, I will purchase the other things on list you both mentioned.

Thanks again.

 

[DylanGemelli]

No problem


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