cant use trenbolone but cutting
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you want to drop 8-10% body fat which is great however steroids are not used for that purpose... you don't need nor want steroids... that makes no sense and that's now what nor how they are used... i would highly recommend going with sarms... start by reading a detailed article i wrote on sarms... https://www.isarms.com/selective-androgen-receptor-modulators
here is a perfect layout for you
1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
9-12 daa
Mini pct 13-16
clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day
what's your training and cycle history?
Diet is going to be the most important since steroids arent fat burners.. If you want a cutting stack you may want to consider sarms but to get to single digits is going to depend allot on your diet.
This is a great stack
My favorite alternative to using Tren has been Test, Primo, and mast. I've ran them as low as 200/400/600 respectively with really good results. I've also cut on NPP instead of primo at the same dose with good results too. You want to try to stay dry when cutting IMO and dht's can help with this. S4 comes to mind as well, its safer than most orals if you wanted to go that route.
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Gymjunkie38
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Steroids and cutting here goes . steroids that we lable cutters ie tren winstrol masteron ext.. When a bodybuilder talks about ( CUTTING ) were talking about 8 too 10 percent bodyfat with tons of lean muscle going down too 2 percent bodyfat without loosing muscle this is tricky and steroids are neccasary so if you look in the mirror and say id like too see my abs you dont need steroids to do it. If you say cool veins in my obliques but I want striations in my glutes you need steroids . and the purpose of steroids is too create a hyper anabolic state that biilds and keeps muscle it does not burn fat . but too loose fat and keep muscle you have too diet slowly balance your macros at the right time . with gear you can pull a 1500 calories deficit and do 2 hours of fasted cardio and hardly loose any muscle at all so its all fat loss . but for those dramatic results you have too be willing too cut that many calories and do all that cardio and still train heavy and steroids dramatically increase appetite in most people so the crazy diet is gonna suck even worse .steroids speed up the process by alowing you too put in more work:if you cant do what is easy on your own gear will not help
I agree with Dylan completely here. There is no need for any steroids to assist your goal. This is where a proper sarms stack will really shine for you, and I believe Dylan laid out a perfect stack to help you reach that goal. I would do exactly that and run that stack which is perfect to help you strip the fat off while maintaining strength and lean mass while even adding onto it in the process.
That stack will boost your metabolism, increase fat loss substantially, and increase your endurance to another level you've never seen before. You will also see jumps in strength and lean mass, and see some nice recomp action.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)
PCT
Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day
(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)
That stack will boost your metabolism, increase fat loss substantially, and increase your endurance to another level you've never seen before. You will also see jumps in strength and lean mass, and see some nice recomp action.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)
PCT
Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day
(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)
100% dead on. Great set up for dropping some BF (as long as nutrition is on point)
OP, after you get your body fat to where you want adding an AAS cycle will give you tremendous results.
this is a statement that should be read over and over again... WELL SAID and a clear and concise explanation on a highly misunderstood issue... NICE post!
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Cutting is about will power determination and focus. Its hard and not for everyone.
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That's no shit either. And there's also different levels of it. Somebody that goes from obese to average losing a bunch of weight is one level. Somebody going from average to lean is another level that requires a but more. But for somebody that goes from lean to ultra lean (contest lean at 4-5%) it is a level that cannot be described, and only experienced. It's the single hardest thing I've ever done. I can maintain 8% every day easy with leniency. To drop another 3-4% requires sacrifice beyond comprehension for those that haven't been there.
(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)
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This is very true, which I have always had the utmost respect for people that can stick it out and make it happen. I would say most people do not understand the sacrifices and dedication that are truly made for an individual to drop below single digits BF% (especially contest prepping)
See thats the problem, looking great does cost some health benefits when BF% becomes very low (contest prep low). But looks so dam good, lol. That's the sacrifice...
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Thats why pro body builders only look good for 3-5 days and then go back to between 8-10% bf. Some higher. Too tough to hold on to
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True, plus being in that type of condition I'm sure is extremely difficult to grow and makes one feel basically sick. I personally have never been below %9-10F as an adult so i cannot say for sure what it would feel like
its the truth and it really is unbelievably difficult to hold on to... trust me, i have my days staying like i do all year... some days crabby, tired etc... i really do miss certain things at times and i do know once we have kids i'll have to change etc... i cringe at the though of being over 6% but i can't just not eat dinners with family etc. forever either... i do realize that.. its funny though, i used to always be right around 7% and i would literally eat pizza after the gym, out to eat a few times a week etc. and never had a problem because of how hard i work each day in the gym
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PHURIOUS
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Ya. I hear ya. When i was you g and natural i could eat whatever i want and stay under 10%. Now over 40 its harder to GET to 10. Lol. But i know how to do it and how to have will power. Its no fun. And anyone who says it is. Is just plain lying.
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