Using sarms to help during pct? Help needed!!

[Ahmzyy]

Hey guys,

I've recently started my first ever injectables cycle using sus 250 and deca and it goes something like this

week 1-2 1ml sus monday, 1ml thursday (2mls sus all up)
week 3-12 1ml sus / 1 ml deca monday, 1ml sus / 1ml deca thursday (2mls sus , 2mls deca all up)
week 13-15 1ml sus monday, 1ml sus thursday (2mls sus all up)

Now im 28 years old, 172cm, 10-12% body fat and the whole purpose of this cycle was to get some healing effects of the deca as I've struggled through nagging pains and joint/tendon inflammation. I also wanted to see what its like to have better recovery with increased test levels. Three weeks in and approaching my fourth I can really see the difference in energy levels and recovery between sessions. Really keen on the deca kicking in shortly to see how that effects it aswell.

I needed advice on what PCT I should be using (clomid/nolvadex) and how I should be introducing it into my cycle (week, dosage etc). I've also been doing some reading and found some articles that suggested SARMS being incorporated into a PCT to reduce the negative effects of coming off cycle and potentially holding on to most of your muscle gains.

I've managed to get my hand on mk677, mk2866 and lgd. I know that them three together work really well as a healing stack but now wondering if I can throw them during cycle to when im coming off in order to maximise results!! Can anyone help me out here? THANK YOU!!!

 

[Kael]

you can use mk 677 during cycle , pct or bridge (year around actually) it's non supressive
you can also use mk 2866 for 4 weeks during your pct (it gets supressive after that)
lgd would be best added to your cylce since it's supressive ..

 

[DylanGemelli]

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[DylanGemelli]

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[Ahmzyy]

Ok I will be purchasing these to add to my stack. Can you tell me exactly when to use it??
What week would I be starting clomid (few weeks after cycle, few weeks before) From what I can see is that it will be a 6 week protocol. Also, would I be starting the SARMS you recommended at the same time as PCT?

One last thing about SARMS, there’s no mention of using lgd in your response, Would you recommend me using it starting week 4 of my cycle or leave it aside??

is it safe to use mk677 throughout my whole cycle and PCT?? (Was planning to start it tomorrow)

 

[Ahmzyy]

Ok I will be purchasing these to add to my stack. Can you tell me exactly when to use it??
What week would I be starting clomid (few weeks after cycle, few weeks before) From what I can see is that it will be a 6 week protocol. Also, would I be starting the SARMS you recommended at the same time as PCT?

One last thing about SARMS, there’s no mention of using lgd in your response, Would you recommend me using it starting week 4 of my cycle or leave it aside??

is it safe to use mk677 throughout my whole cycle and PCT?? (Was planning to start it tomorrow)

 

[RUCingdsgainz]

You start the chlomid and nova two weeks after your last injection once your esters have cleared. You can run MK through your entire cycle it does not matter you can really start it whenever you want your supost to run it for a minimum of 6 months to really get the full benefit out of it. The LGD should be ran 12 weeks so if you don’t have 12 weeks left in your cycle the. Don’t bother and save it for the next one.

 

[RUCingdsgainz]

You start the chlomid and nova two weeks after your last injection once your esters have cleared. You can run MK through your entire cycle it does not matter you can really start it whenever you want your supost to run it for a minimum of 6 months to really get the full benefit out of it. The LGD should be ran 12 weeks so if you don’t have 12 weeks left in your cycle the. Don’t bother and save it for the next one.

 

[DylanGemelli]

mk677 is ran year round so you would just stay on it... you can use lgd on cycle if you want... thats up to you ... i literally cannot make the pct layout any easier to follow man...

 

[Ahmzyy]

Thank you man! I’ve got 12 weeks from today so I’ll be using it with mk677. I’ll leave the mk2866 for PCT and start the PCT cycle Dylan gave me 2 weeks from my last injection

 

[Ahmzyy]

Thank you man! I’ve got 12 weeks from today so I’ll be using it with mk677. I’ll leave the mk2866 for PCT and start the PCT cycle Dylan gave me 2 weeks from my last injection

 

[Ahmzyy]

Thanks Dylan!! Really appreciate it and love all the educational videos you post about this stuff.

I will be starting your PCT recommendation 2 weeks after my last injection.

 

[RUCingdsgainz]

No problem

 

[DylanGemelli]

not problem man