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trenbolone question

Oh my... when did I say tren was gonna cut 8% bf ?? I just said that was my goal.

and no steroid is effective at 18% bf...you are not in proper condition to run any cycle
grow up...you need to build a proper foundation of consistant diet and training before you cycle
 
It's incredibly ignorant for you to tell me to grow up and that steroids 'are not effective' at 18% BF. Im not even gonna get into it with you because I believe you are incompetent. You didn't even read what I said about training for 13 years.
 
It's incredibly ignorant for you to tell me to grow up and that steroids 'are not effective' at 18% BF. Im not even gonna get into it with you because I believe you are incompetent. You didn't even read what I said about training for 13 years.
so...you believe steroids are effective when you are fat?
lol...the ignorance is all yours bro...you dont have a clue how steroids work

training for 13 YEARS...AND YOU'RE 18% BF !!!!
WTF...yeah...you really know your shit...May be you can give us poor incompetent suckers some diet and training tips
 
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Like I said . Pure ignorance. You have no idea what I've gone through recently. Goodbye.
so you believe that something you have gone thru somehow makes steroids effective in guys with high BF...lol

STEROIDS ARE NEITHER SAFE OR EFFECTIVE WITH ELEVATED BF.....PERIOD
 
so...you believe steroids are effective when your fat?
lol...the ignorance is all yours bro...you dont have a clue how steroids work

training for 13 YEARS...AND YOU'RE 18% BF !!!!
WTF...yeah...you really know your shit...May be you can give us poor incompetent suckers some diet and training tips
To be fair, not Everyone wants to be lean as fuck either. Personally I'm at 15% and i wouldnt want to get lower at all! I love the look, more like a viking or something, lol! And to say that steroids doesnt work, that's just wrong. Look at Most strongmen for example. He should however be aware that sides are more serious!!

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Steroids are most definitely effective. When your strength and vascularity doubles in a matter of weeks, I would go as far as to say that they are taking effect.
 
Steroids are most definitely effective. When your strength and vascularity doubles in a matter of weeks, I would go as far as to say that they are taking effect.
i would not render them not effective, but at a higher body fat, they are not as effective as they are when you are in good condition but the bigger issue is not the effect, its the increase in the possibility of encountering far worse side effects... if you are willing to take that chance, thats completely up to you... is it a GUARANTEE you will get hurt... no... is it far more likely that you will have issues, ABSOLUTELY so thats where you just have to factor in your PERSONAL risk vs. reward and make your decision based upon that...
 
i would not render them not effective, but at a higher body fat, they are not as effective as they are when you are in good condition but the bigger issue is not the effect, its the increase in the possibility of encountering far worse side effects... if you are willing to take that chance, thats completely up to you... is it a GUARANTEE you will get hurt... no... is it far more likely that you will have issues, ABSOLUTELY so thats where you just have to factor in your PERSONAL risk vs. reward and make your decision based upon that...
As always, a reasonable and unbiased opinion based on facts! You're the reason alot of people come to this forum seeking guidance :)

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Our recommendation is always to be in the right kind of condition before ever running any sort of steroid, especially tren. The side effects and strain on health will be amplified otherwise. Ultimately it's always up to the individual, but that is what we advise for obvious reasons
 
To be fair, not Everyone wants to be lean as fuck either. Personally I'm at 15% and i wouldnt want to get lower at all! I love the look, more like a viking or something, lol! And to say that steroids doesnt work, that's just wrong. Look at Most strongmen for example. He should however be aware that sides are more serious!!

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if you want to be 15%... you dont need to be using steroids
 
brother...you yourself make the point...13 yrs training and 18% Bf

the lazy try to use steroids to acheive results that are easily obtained thru proper nutrition and training
nothing subsitutes for a foundation built on a consistent program of dedicated diet and training
 
if you want to be 15%... you dont need to be using steroids
No one ever "needs" steroids... and now we're back to it. You seem obsesed with low BF? I can assure you that my bloods look great both on and off cycle! It's not that i can't loose body fat, i've been down to 8%, and i simply did not feel comfortable. Neither was i crazy about the looks. I've found that 13-15% is where im Most comfortable and feel the best. Im not gonna dropp unless my health is at risk.

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just go ahead and use them... thats up to you.. your an adult.. but so are we and i know im not advising it when your body fat is over 15%... even 15 is too high but i can still see it being possible so i help people in that range but thats the max... you know the consequences at a higher body fat and as i said, if the risk vs reward is there for you, then by all means go for it... you dont have to be single digits by ANY means but you also need to be in some sort of condition man... thats your call... you seem to know what you want so go for it but dont expect people to condone something thats not right just because "you want to do it"
 
So im assuming you want to run around 250-300mgs of test....idk what a baby dose of test is. I would change to test e since u only want to pin 2x a week but since ur insistant of running ur triblend at least consider 3pins. Second to put this into perspective at 18% bf youre carrying approx 42 lbs of pure fat. That is a lot. Can u still run aas? Yes. Is it the healthiest or optimal? No. It is exptremely hard on youre vascular system and tren does a number on ur vascular system. Your lipids will get out of wack. Your bp will elevate. Jogging a lap around the block will be much much more difficult and you will constantly sweat. This is why low bf is very important. This is not being said to preach to you or restrict you. Its done for your longterm health. Tes i know you feel great and look fine but youre not thinking 25 yrs down the road. So take from this what u will. Its ur life and ur body do as u will just dont take ot so personally when you dont hear what u want on a public forum

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So im assuming you want to run around 250-300mgs of test....idk what a baby dose of test is. I would change to test e since u only want to pin 2x a week but since ur insistant of running ur triblend at least consider 3pins. Second to put this into perspective at 18% bf youre carrying approx 42 lbs of pure fat. That is a lot. Can u still run aas? Yes. Is it the healthiest or optimal? No. It is exptremely hard on youre vascular system and tren does a number on ur vascular system. Your lipids will get out of wack. Your bp will elevate. Jogging a lap around the block will be much much more difficult and you will constantly sweat. This is why low bf is very important. This is not being said to preach to you or restrict you. Its done for your longterm health. Tes i know you feel great and look fine but youre not thinking 25 yrs down the road. So take from this what u will. Its ur life and ur body do as u will just dont take ot so personally when you dont hear what u want on a public forum

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i literally could not have said this any better... this was said with rationale that i just dont often see... well said brother
 
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