Tamoxifen or Clomid only cycle?

[bombsquadted]

It's been a long, long time since I posted. Got back into the natty thing occasionally doing a few SARMS cycles throughout the last 5-6 years.

That being said, I was curious what happens if a guy uses 20-30mg a day of tamoxifen or clomid in an attempt to naturally raise test. I'm 40 now and recently got back my latest panel (haven't done a full pct-cycle in 6 years so natty results). My free test was at 436 and I'm FUCKING not happy about it. I still lift heavy, don't smoke, still get raging hard ons that I want to put everywhere, etc.

Should I consider taking Clomid solo or is that just dead-ass wrong? Thanks

P.S Tried to do an exhaustive search before posting this but couldn't find anything related to SERMS that wasn't about PCT specifically.

 

[servicemangler]

It has worked for me but the guys on here will tell you its a bad option. I feel good when I do clomid post cycle or just doing it for a month

 

[bombsquadted]

It has worked for me but the guys on here will tell you its a bad option. I feel good when I do clomid post cycle or just doing it for a month

I appreciate that, thanks. Any ideas on why some of the other guys on here would disagree?

 

[bombsquadted]

Hormonal effects of an antiestrogen, tamoxifen, in normal and oligospermic men - PubMed

The administration of tamoxifen, 20 mg/day for 10 days, to normal males produced a moderate increase in luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), testosterone, and estradiol levels, comparable to the effect of 150 mg of clomiphene citrate (Clomid). However, whereas Clomid...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I found this article pretty interesting fwiw to anyone else. Planning on doing a 20mg Nolva/Tamoxifen for 6 weeks unless someone here has anything to say about it

 

[DylanGemelli]

my issue is more so with the long term use of it as opposed to something short... i would be more apt to just run a test booster myself just because you have to keep in mind that these are drugs not intended for this use and my preference is always to keep them to a minimum.. so you have an option of either a fertility drug in clomid or a breast cancer treatment in nolva... so not truly ideal but i dont have a big issue with a short run.. i would likely be more apt to take a look at enclomiphene as an option as well

 

[bombsquadted]

my issue is more so with the long term use of it as opposed to something short... i would be more apt to just run a test booster myself just because you have to keep in mind that these are drugs not intended for this use and my preference is always to keep them to a minimum.. so you have an option of either a fertility drug in clomid or a breast cancer treatment in nolva... so not truly ideal but i dont have a big issue with a short run.. i would likely be more apt to take a look at enclomiphene as an option as well

Dylan you really are shit man, thank you!

 

[bombsquadted]

Dylan you really are shit man, thank you!

Fuck, I mean 'You ARE the shit!!'

 

[DylanGemelli]

Fuck, I mean 'You ARE the shit!!'

LOL happy to help bro!

 

[bombsquadted]

The last two questions I have are:

1. Where can I find info on running Enclomiphene?

2. Can I find it from any of the sponsored vendors here?

 

[BarberSal]

The last two questions I have are:

1. Where can I find info on running Enclomiphene?

2. Can I find it from any of the sponsored vendors here?

Umbrella labs carries it.

ENCLOMIPHENE 30ML LIQUID (33MG/ML, 990MG BOTTLE)

Enclomiphene Nootropic Liquid CAS Number 7599-79-3 Other Names Enclomifene, (E)-Clomifene; RMI-16289, Enclomid, Enclomifene Citrate, Enclomiphene Citrate IUPAC Name 2-[4-[(E)-2-chloro-1,2-diphenylethenyl]phenoxy]-N,N-diethylethanamine Molecular Formula C₃₂H₃₆ClNO₈ Molecular Weight 598.09...

umbrellalabs.is

 

[bombsquadted]

I'm 40 years old, 6' 2" and 215 lbs. Should I start off with something like 6mg every other day? What's a good length of cycle?

 

[DylanGemelli]

I'm 40 years old, 6' 2" and 215 lbs. Should I start off with something like 6mg every other day? What's a good length of cycle?

20 mg per day is the dose you would want with it and 6 weeks would be fine..

as posted prior, umbrella labs has top quality

 

[bombsquadted]

20 mg per day is the dose you would want with it and 6 weeks would be fine..

as posted prior, umbrella labs has top quality

Thanks Dylan. I purchased a tincture from them this morning. I'll follow that 20mg/6 weeks cycle

 

[Tazz]

Dylan covered you perfectly! Make sure you’re using umbrella labs for this stuff, the last thing you want to do is get fake shit!

 

[servicemangler]

Fuck, I mean 'You ARE the shit!!'

These guys are alot smarter than me

 

[bombsquadted]

I got my enclomiphene from Umbella the very next day after ordering it. That's insane to me

 

[DylanGemelli]

I got my enclomiphene from Umbella the very next day after ordering it. That's insane to me

thats what you get with a TOP service provider bro!

 

[Fella Finn]

Thats awesome you had such a great experience!