steroid cycle help

[thomorten]

Hey brother hope all is swell.
I recently started a 500mg test E/ 300mg of deca/50mg of prov ED.

This is only my second cycle ever as my first was 100m of test p Eod. I've talked with my boy about HCG use and he insists on using it 2 weeks after my last pin...but I've obviously read the different outlooks on this topic and how 4-6 weeks before the cycle ends is the proper use.

I am someone who really worries about my well being & I want to do everything RIGHT, especially when playing with my hormones. I'm trying to have the smoothest pct & cycle possible and everything is going great using my adex .5 ed & .5 prami before bed ed.

Also another quick question. I Lost a fuckton of weight in my prime years of teenagehood which deff took a toll on my horomones (the amount of water that I retain when I'm off gear)
And the muscle mass I am able to build and retain. I was highly considering cruising on a trt dose with optimal adex use because it's honestly the only time I feel like any of the work I'm putting in SHOWS. Along with my libido and overall mood being elevated severely.

& I would also love to hear your opinion on marijuana use & steroids. I'm a heavy marijuana user, and would love to hear your take on this topic and the positives & negatives.

Thanks bud, appreciate all the videos and knowledge as always.

 

[EZ_E]

Are you asking if you should use HCG in PCT? Do you have a PCT planned?

You need to post your COMPLETE stats;

Age
Height
Weight
Body fat % PLEASE DO NOT GUESS
Years of training
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run)
PCT for each cycle
Goals
Supplements (if any)
General idea of nutrition
Any other relevant info (injuries, surgeries you've had, etc.)

Be honest; don't write what you think we want to hear

Also; read this:

https://www.isarms.com/forums/stero...w-here-read-been-here-ready-anyway-10368.html

 

[RickRock]

Hey brother hope all is swell.
I recently started a 500mg test E/ 300mg of deca/50mg of prov ED.

This is only my second cycle ever as my first was 100m of test p Eod. I've talked with my boy about HCG use and he insists on using it 2 weeks after my last pin...but I've obviously read the different outlooks on this topic and how 4-6 weeks before the cycle ends is the proper use.

I am someone who really worries about my well being & I want to do everything RIGHT, especially when playing with my hormones. I'm trying to have the smoothest pct & cycle possible and everything is going great using my adex .5 ed & .5 prami before bed ed.

Also another quick question. I Lost a fuckton of weight in my prime years of teenagehood which deff took a toll on my horomones (the amount of water that I retain when I'm off gear)
And the muscle mass I am able to build and retain. I was highly considering cruising on a trt dose with optimal adex use because it's honestly the only time I feel like any of the work I'm putting in SHOWS. Along with my libido and overall mood being elevated severely.

& I would also love to hear your opinion on marijuana use & steroids. I'm a heavy marijuana user, and would love to hear your take on this topic and the positives & negatives.

Thanks bud, appreciate all the videos and knowledge as always.

What is your full stats, goals, and experience?


HCG never gets used in pct. it's used the last couple weeks of a cycle and while esters clear until pct starts.


I don't know what you have planned for pct, but this is what it should be

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[thomorten]

Are you asking if you should use HCG in PCT? Do you have a PCT planned?

You need to post your COMPLETE stats;

Age
Height
Weight
Body fat % PLEASE DO NOT GUESS
Years of training
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run)
PCT for each cycle
Goals
Supplements (if any)
General idea of nutrition
Any other relevant info (injuries, surgeries you've had, etc.)

Be honest; don't write what you think we want to hear

Also; read this:

https://www.isarms.com/forums/stero...w-here-read-been-here-ready-anyway-10368.html

All I am is honest because I need honest answers [emoji23]
I'm 23 right now, 6'3 220-223 currently.
Body fat unknown honestly, I'd say 12 if I HAD to guess.

Been training for about 6 years, went through a severe weight loss when I was 16 & made it a habit along with eating properly. Was 146 at about 6'1 so I'm sure you can imagine.

This is the first cycle I've introduced any other compound than test, I ran a 12 week test P cycle last summer to test the waters and absolutely loved it. 100mg eod. The pct for that cycle was garbage because all I used was Novla because that's what I was told all was needed at the time.

I've had a lot of joint & lower back issues due to really shitty work so my goals aren't really set on any numbers (PRs) but I'm honestly just looking to consistently improve my physique and training (obviously) because I don't have stints where I don't go, it's a year round thing.

Supps:
vit c 3000mg
Vit e 400iu
D3 1000iu
Selenium 200mcg
B12 1000mcg
Glucosamine 3x day
3G fish oil 1200epa/ 500dha

Preworkout:
3200mg beta
5g arginine
200mg caffeine
1000/2000mg tyrosine
Gatorade&water on hand at the gym

My diet is pretty solid, I gotta step my calories up a bit to grow faster. Eating THIS much is very new to me lmao. I say I eat 80/20 whole foods against processed trash. Intaking roughly 3800/4000 cal a day.



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[thomorten]

What is your full stats, goals, and experience?


HCG never gets used in pct. it's used the last couple weeks of a cycle and while esters clear until pct starts.


I don't know what you have planned for pct, but this is what it should be

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

I was going to use clomid and novla the way ou have it structured there. Not the others though, aromasin has been very tough to find.


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[thomorten]

Thanks for taking the time out to respond though, respect.


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[buen]

REALITY CHECK

How can you say...."I am someone who really worries about my well being & I want to do everything RIGHT, especially when playing with my hormones."

And then say ....."I was highly considering cruising on a trt dose with optimal adex use because it's honestly the only time I feel like any of the work I'm putting in SHOWS."

YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW UNEDUCATED MISINFORMED AND IRRESPONSIBLE THIS IS !!!

Do you have the slightest clue what it does to your hormone system? Do you realize it affects/changes/shuts down over 300 different hormones in your body?

TRT is something for guys with no other option...no one that fully understands the consequences would ever choose it

 

[thomorten]

REALITY CHECK

How can you say...."I am someone who really worries about my well being & I want to do everything RIGHT, especially when playing with my hormones."

And then say ....."I was highly considering cruising on a trt dose with optimal adex use because it's honestly the only time I feel like any of the work I'm putting in SHOWS."

YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW UNEDUCATED MISINFORMED AND IRRESPONSIBLE THIS IS !!!

Do you have the slightest clue what it does to your hormone system? Do you realize it affects/changes/shuts down over 300 different hormones in your body?

TRT is something for guys with no other option...no one that fully understands the consequences would ever choose it

Well that's why it was more less intended as a question because Indont have much knowledge of cruising & the effects it can have.
I won't now that you have broken it down, I'm just thinking a proper pct to this cycle might set me a bit straight because I felt like novla did nothing for me my cycle prior.


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[EZ_E]

If you were 223 and 12% Bodyfat you'd look like you'd been on for years.

When I say "don't guess" it's for a reason. this can have a big impact on what your next move would be.

 

[thomorten]

If you were 223 and 12% Bodyfat you'd look like you'd been on for years.

When I say "don't guess" it's for a reason. this can have a big impact on what your next move would be.

Okay, true enough. I shall find out what it is.
I'm very lean in certain areas but I have very sensitive estro and retain water like a MF. Have it under control ight now but off cycle it is brutal.


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[EZ_E]

Okay, true enough. I shall find out what it is.
I'm very lean in certain areas but I have very sensitive estro and retain water like a MF. Have it under control ight now but off cycle it is brutal.


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Could be an easy fix with some nutritional tweaks.

 

[RickRock]

I'd highly recommend the whole pct I posted for you. It's incomplete without it and I provided you the link to get everything you need. Aromasin and all the rest of it can be had at www.sarmsx.com

Also at 23 you are too young to be cycling in my opinion, let alone considering staying on. That's just completely reckless and will set you up for major long term problems

 

[thomorten]

I'd highly recommend the whole pct I posted for you. It's incomplete without it and I provided you the link to get everything you need. Aromasin and all the rest of it can be had at www.sarmsx.com

Also at 23 you are too young to be cycling in my opinion, let alone considering staying on. That's just completely reckless and will set you up for major long term problems

Well considering my horomones were trash to begin with and the docs are giving me a hard time about my issues I said fuck it and took matters into my own hands trying out test.
And I know I'm a young guy, but you'd be surprised if I told you some of the shit people are running here at the age of 19...straight orals & dbol only cycles...so I'm deff not in the worst position lol


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[EZ_E]

Well considering my horomones were trash to begin with and the docs are giving me a hard time about my issues I said fuck it and took matters into my own hands trying out test.
And I know I'm a young guy, but you'd be surprised if I told you some of the shit people are running here at the age of 19...straight orals & dbol only cycles...so I'm deff not in the worst position lol


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We're not talking about any1 else and what they're doing. We're talking about you.

 

[thomorten]

We're not talking about any1 else and what they're doing. We're talking about you.

Just saying, it could be worse. But I got my hands on Aromasin & just need the MK & GW.
Going to use hcg the last 4 weeks, was my largest concern considering Inwas being directed to use it 2 weeks after my last shot.


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[thomorten]

I'd highly recommend the whole pct I posted for you. It's incomplete without it and I provided you the link to get everything you need. Aromasin and all the rest of it can be had at www.sarmsx.com

Also at 23 you are too young to be cycling in my opinion, let alone considering staying on. That's just completely reckless and will set you up for major long term problems

I've read a bit and I'm not longer considering TRT. Not for me.
Like I said before I think a proper pct this time round might make a big difference this time around.

Only did 40/40/20/20 novla on my test p cycle.


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[DylanGemelli]

well, all i can say is good luck to you... you may have ruined your hormones etc but im certainly not further contributing to it... you know the ramifications and you made a choice but i make a choice in terms of taking care of everyone that comes to me and needs me... in no way, shape or form would i ever advise such reckless and foolish behavior... if you wanted to do this right and run just sarms, then i would gladly help you.... take a look at www.sarmsx.com and read my articles here... https://www.isarms.com/selective-androgen-receptor-modulators

however, if you are going to keep using steroids, im definitely not your guy to help... unlike most out there, i actually care about everyone and their well being... as does everyone here on the forum...