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Second cycle almost complete(advice needed)

RickRock said:
Drop the tbol and see if things improve. If it does you found your culprit and tbol may not be for you. It's not a side I've heard but everyone is a little different

You're just going to have t0 use the process of elimination to see what it is
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Thanks alot rick, i really appriciate you and dylan taking time and answering the same so call stupid questions. But then again no stupid questions in this life:

I was wondering at first that test flu is coming achy muscles and little dizziness , but the blurry vision is right now really bothering me. i have to drop something. even if this is bolde i have to know it snot the tbol first. i drop it now and see if in few days i feel better.
 
yes, you just have to do some trial and error and thats the problem when you run too many compounds at once, where you just dont know which is causing what...
 
Even measured the blood pressure but it was okay, 143/73 93 15 min after training. pretty normal. But yeah, ill probably have to wait few days then and see if sides subside. I let you know.
 
Hello guys i need help. I dropped turinabol yesterday . BUT i had the worst sides today. i had to come home from work. Insane dizziness and hole wolrd was circleling and still is to a degree. When i was walking i tought id fell over.

I started to think, i have taken 3 times 12,5 mg of pharacom EXOS(exemestane) .wich arrived in last minute. Took 12,5 yesterday also and Could it be i crushed my estro? Too soon too much? I even took 12,5 mg of exemestane 2 days before cycle because i had estrogen high end of normal, so i tought it would be good idea.
And this is only thing i ordered from napsgear.org wich i 100% cant trust.
I really feel like puke and the picture i see is shaky.
I have arimidex on hand. I could change.
Also today is injection day. If i inject my test and bolde will it raise my estro little faster if this is causing the sides?
 
Just wondering, could it be bolde, in theory it would be too soon for bolde sides?
Feeling so stupid now. i have everything Test e, bolde, arimidex, aromasin, nolva, clomid ostarine, cardarine, hcg , so much waited this cycle, and now i feel like crap. dont even know if i go to work tomorrow. Im a bit confused right now. what in the hell is causing these sides . i think im gona do the second shot today of bolde and test e, but im not sure its the right move. hmm..

If its aromasin, it has short half life. but it kills the enzyme so its going to be like that 48-72 hours?
 
Noone knows why or what is causing it and you are just asking for people to guess and speculate, which is very dangerous... the one obvious answer is to stop


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I agree... Stopping would probably be the best thing to do at this point.
 
Is there any kind of pct needed if i only did one shot?

And if i have done test only cycle without these kind of issues , there is allways this option to keep doing test only 12 week cycle. Or if pct is.not needed or onlt mini pct right now, mabey stop now. Wait when everything subsides and then start test only. See then.
 
If you're going to continue and do Test only drop everything except your AI. Different compounds effect different people and sometimes you have to push through the sides and sometimes you have to stop. Only you can decide.
 
Im just wondering, i have these things i want to do a cycle. If i just stop everything then i dont know what it was.
I have to to bloods. At least estro and testo to see whats going on with them. Is test working and did my estro crashed or not.
 
i would just get a full panel if you are having this kind of issue..



Includes:
Complete Blood Count (CBC) w/ Differential: Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count; red cell count; white blood cell count; immature granulocytes
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile ( includes eGFR ): A:G ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; ALT (SGPT); AST (SGOT); bilirubin, total; BUN; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; creatinine, serum; globulin, total; glucose, serum; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum; eGFR
Estradiol
Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH)
Luteinizing Hormone (LH)
Testosterone, Total - Women, Children, and Hypogonadal Males, LC/MS-MS
 
So basically i woked up yesterday and felt much much better(like 80% better), therefore i still thought it was Estrogen too low , got bloods done right in morning and i think i was right my test was 44nmol/L wich is excactly two times as high as my natural. So my test e is good and Estradiol was 114pmol/L and i have never had this so low. My natural was 130pmol/L. I can only imagine it was half of that in wednesday when i did not want to stand up for 3 hours.

So i decided to go on with Test and EQ did second shot yesterday. I dont kickstart it with turinabol anymore i leave it to future, when i have complete cycle support, i just wait the test to kick in first.

Whats to learn here like Dylan says; EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT!

I have a friend who has no Estrogen side effects whatsoever except he just got gyno, He has had hes bloodwork 55 Estradiol and now he has over 200 and he does not feel anything. Where as i go under 100 or over 200 and i feel completely shitty, anxius, i have vision issues and so on.

So i basically know now that 3 times 12.5mg aromasin in first 5 days of my cycle was way to much for me.
Mabey I have to wait a bit to estro come up little bit more and mabey go on with arimidex, till i get my mid cycle bloods and if i have high estro then , then start taking aromasin from the low dose? what do you think? As well as using aromasin low dose in pct.


Now i understand that 2 people can be SOO different as far as their bodies reacting to hormones etc.
 
you need to back on the ai for sure... you can switch to arimidex, yes and i would just half the dose of that at .25 mg eod or you can stick with aromasin but keep it much lower, thats up to you but did you get pre cycle bloods to compare to ?
 
Yes i posted my bloods here too, they are in page 4 , but i post them here also:

89 kg
182cm
10-12% bf

ala aminotransferase 21 U/l < 41 U/l
aspartate aminotransferase 22 U/l < 40 U/l
Gamma-glutamyl transferase 19 U/l < 73 U/l
cholesterol 4.3 mmol/l < 5 mmol/l
HDL-cholesterol 1.4 mmol/l > 1 mmol/l
LDL-cholesteroll 2.6 mmol/l < 3 mmol/l
Lsh 4.67 IU/l 1.5 - 9.3 IU/l
Fsh 5.5 IU/l 1.4 - 18.1 IU/l
Estradiol 134.1 pmol/l < 146 pmol/l
Prolactin 55 mIU/l 53 - 360 mIU/l
Testosterone 23.0 nmol/l 8 - 29 nmol/l
Cortisol 197 nmol/l 138 - 690 nmol/l

What i have found is when im in 125-145 range in estro i feel great. anything over that starts to bloat, and anything way under i dont like AT ALL. Now i need to find the dosage that holds me in that range. Its more hard than i tought. mabey i go with arimidex and leave aromasin to pct. like 6,25 eod
 
Thanks for answers , its good to have somebody smarter than you to come and ask. If i get cycle support later, i can also finish my cycle also with turinabol i have 5 weeks left of 50 mg a day. You have said in your videos , that it is also a good finisher, yes?
 
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