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PCT Help - Severe depression/anxiety. Please!

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tonash2

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Hello,
This is my second post on this forum, in regards to the PCT after my first cycle.

I Ran

Week 1-12 500mg Test E
Week 1-8 60mg Anavar
Week 7-12 350mg TREN
hcg @ 1000iu Twice in the 9th and 12th week.

Now after doing a lot of reading ive come to realize i fucked up big time with not taking the proper hcg protocol to fight the Tren shut down or acquiring Caber. Please bare with me, i know i messed up im really just looking for help at this point.

I Started PCT With

HCGenerate through out PCT along with N2Gaurd
Nolva 40/20/20/20~
Clomid 100Day 1, 50/50/50~

Im 18 Days in, and im suffering from major depression and anxiety. I read that clomid could do that, so i stopped clomid for 5 days and i felt normal again. Right now im back on clomid and the anxiety has gotten a lot worse (severe emotional reactions and panic attacks) I also have no sex drive (Which im assuming is from the shut down). I realize this is far from a quality cycle i ran, i realize i did not do enough homework and fucked up here and there. Any advice or assistance would be immensely appreciated!!
 
This is just bad all the way around bro... you need to PM Dylan asap IMO. There are guys with some input to give, but with your suffering panic attacks and anxiety I wouldn't feel 100% comfy giving my recommendation past stopping the clomid to keep your mind at ease. You're gonna be shut down either way and your cycle and poor PCT have done their damage already. Taking the time to get a proper PCT on hand may well be worth it.
 
you should of ran caber bro, you need caber or prami ASAP, and drop the nolvadex now and continue the clomid alongside caber until your prolactin is under control, throwing in some GW/ostarine would also be very wise.

Symptoms of High Prolactin
- low libido
- anorgasmia (delayed ejaculation)
- erectile dysfunction
- puffy or sensitive nipples
- discharge from nipples
- fatigue/lethargy
- depression
- suppressed testosterone production
-anxiety


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tonash2 said:
Hello,
This is my second post on this forum, in regards to the PCT after my first cycle.

I Ran

Week 1-12 500mg Test E
Week 1-8 60mg Anavar
Week 7-12 350mg TREN
hcg @ 1000iu Twice in the 9th and 12th week.

Now after doing a lot of reading ive come to realize i fucked up big time with not taking the proper hcg protocol to fight the Tren shut down or acquiring Caber. Please bare with me, i know i messed up im really just looking for help at this point.

I Started PCT With

HCGenerate through out PCT along with N2Gaurd
Nolva 40/20/20/20~
Clomid 100Day 1, 50/50/50~

Im 18 Days in, and im suffering from major depression and anxiety. I read that clomid could do that, so i stopped clomid for 5 days and i felt normal again. Right now im back on clomid and the anxiety has gotten a lot worse (severe emotional reactions and panic attacks) I also have no sex drive (Which im assuming is from the shut down). I realize this is far from a quality cycle i ran, i realize i did not do enough homework and fucked up here and there. Any advice or assistance would be immensely appreciated!!
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im not going to beat you up about this bro... i am going to explain why this is such a horrible mess from top to bottom... were you taking tren ace or tren e? 6 weeks is even short for ace and if that was tren e then that makes it even worse... you cannot run tren at that amount with no caber or prami man... your prolactin is probably a mess which will in turn cause your estrogen to be a mess... you timed this all wrong... you would start hcg week 11-14... you finish on week 12, you let 2 weeks for your esters to clear and then you start pct which would be week 15... why on earth would you waste money and time on hcgenerate man? seriously? that's a waste... your having depression from several things... chances are your estrogen and prolactin are both elevated and that alone will cause it... you ran clomid at 100 mg which is flat out absurd... DO NOT do that again... DO NOT run anymore cycles for a VERY long time... you have no clue what your doing and this is the result...

was this your first cycle?? not to mention you ran anavar 8 weeks... thats TOO LONG... why are you running cycles when you dont know what your doing? this is what gives steroids a bad name, because people do this, they get hurt and then blame it on the steroids, when in fact, its the negligent person's fault...

you MUST get bloodwork done after you run the post cycle i give you... are you sure your clomid and nolva is even a good product? it could be overdosed as well... clomid at 50 mg per day is not going to cause depression like that... at 100 it will though... you need to run an 8 week pct at this point... you have made a very very large mess of things man.. if you don't do what is needed your going to suffer a very long and hard lesson...

here is the link to get the pct you need... you need to get TWO of them for an eight week pct... https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum

here is the layout...

clomid 50/50/50/50/25/25/25/0
nolva 0/40/40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
I realize i messed up big time. The local bodybuilders here have not given me the best advice. They recommend just taking HCG now week 3 into my PCT. Should i restart my PCT with the layout you have given? Should i stop then run HCG then the PCT you have given? What steps should i do from today.
 
tonash2 said:
I realize i messed up big time. The local bodybuilders here have not given me the best advice. They recommend just taking HCG now week 3 into my PCT. Should i restart my PCT with the layout you have given? Should i stop then run HCG then the PCT you have given? What steps should i do from today.
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yes, start the pct i gave you asap... just forget hcg at this point and begin the pct
 
Also, i am not currently in a good financial situation (had to take time off work due to the anxiety and depression), i purchased aromasin from the link you sent me. Are the MK and GW extremely necessary for the pct? I just dont know if ill be able to afford it in the next week.
 
Sorry to spam post rather than make 1. I will be starting up the PCT protocol you have given. I just wanted to learn from experience as well as learn as i go forward. I know i have a long recovery and i know i wont be entering another cycle for a while but i still would like to learn more. When you said to forget about HCG at this time, does it mean its too late? Or that its not necessary? I ask because i worry that i might not fully recover on clomid/nolva and aromasin alone. Any advice or answers would be greatly appreciated in understanding and future knowledge. I will be doing the PCT regardless just curious about the HCG.
 
U are too far into pct to use hcg and the only thing that is going to do you good are time off gw is a very good addition as to prevent cortisol rebound and just keeps ur fire stoked so to speak
 
rockmfhudd said:
U are too far into pct to use hcg and the only thing that is going to do you good are time off gw is a very good addition as to prevent cortisol rebound and just keeps ur fire stoked so to speak
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Ok, I understand. I will try to acquire the means to purchase GW and MK as soon as I can. Any oppinion about adding caber maybe @ 0.25 x2 a week to help with the prolactin?
 
Pct is rough. Clomid and Nolvadex will definitely make you have anxiety and depression. Calm down and just know it's all in your head broski. It'll pass soon.

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I guess u could hit some caber but i think its a moot point now u should have had it on cycle but u know that now. Did u have any bloodwork done during or before cycle would help to get that done to see where u are
 
tonash2 said:
Sorry to spam post rather than make 1. I will be starting up the PCT protocol you have given. I just wanted to learn from experience as well as learn as i go forward. I know i have a long recovery and i know i wont be entering another cycle for a while but i still would like to learn more. When you said to forget about HCG at this time, does it mean its too late? Or that its not necessary? I ask because i worry that i might not fully recover on clomid/nolva and aromasin alone. Any advice or answers would be greatly appreciated in understanding and future knowledge. I will be doing the PCT regardless just curious about the HCG.
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okay bro.. you need to understand something about hcg... its literally the worst thing you can use during pct... at this point, you can use it if you want but its not going to recover you from anything.. it will further suppress you... its a nice jumpstart when your running a cycle, to use right before pct... ultimately, it will only mimic lh and fsh, which you are trying to jumpstart now, not suppress... your not grasping how to actually recover properly here as opposed to reading nonsense that many others write... if you want to run it, by all means, go for it but please do not come back wondering why your not properly recovered... it has a place, a small place otherwise it is far more detrimental than helpful... your OVERTHINKING now and that is not a good thing and often leads to more problems
 
DylanGemelli said:
okay bro.. you need to understand something about hcg... its literally the worst thing you can use during pct... at this point, you can use it if you want but its not going to recover you from anything.. it will further suppress you... its a nice jumpstart when your running a cycle, to use right before pct... ultimately, it will only mimic lh and fsh, which you are trying to jumpstart now, not suppress... your not grasping how to actually recover properly here as opposed to reading nonsense that many others write... if you want to run it, by all means, go for it but please do not come back wondering why your not properly recovered... it has a place, a small place otherwise it is far more detrimental than helpful... your OVERTHINKING now and that is not a good thing and often leads to more problems
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I understand, I only asked for learning purposes and better understanding. I ordered the PCT you sent me and will be starting it now. I also know the constant reading and overthinking has contributed a lot to the stress/anxiety and feel a lot at ease having a proper pct protocol that i can strictly follow. It really means a lot, i know i messed up and that mistakes like these are what give steroids a bad name but it wasn't my intention. I will update during the PCT to who it may concern or for others who might fall into a similar issue, also after pct with a blood test. Thanks for helping with the PCT and explaining the mess ups and the ways to recover.

One question. When you said it was a waste to buy the HCGenerate, is it because i should't be using it now in PCT and just focus on recovering on the Nolva/Clomid/Aromasin combo?
 
tonash2 said:
I understand, I only asked for learning purposes and better understanding. I ordered the PCT you sent me and will be starting it now. I also know the constant reading and overthinking has contributed a lot to the stress/anxiety and feel a lot at ease having a proper pct protocol that i can strictly follow. It really means a lot, i know i messed up and that mistakes like these are what give steroids a bad name but it wasn't my intention. I will update during the PCT to who it may concern or for others who might fall into a similar issue, also after pct with a blood test. Thanks for helping with the PCT and explaining the mess ups and the ways to recover.

One question. When you said it was a waste to buy the HCGenerate, is it because i should't be using it now in PCT and just focus on recovering on the Nolva/Clomid/Aromasin combo?
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HCGemerat is just an overpriced unnecessary supplement that really won't offer anything in post cycle therapy for you when you are already using Clomid and Nolva for recovery. It really isn't going to bring anything positive to the table which is what makes it a waste. Just run the pct layout given to you as advised and you'll be fine brother

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED
 
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