Mr. Olympia shows us what were doing wrong...

[44YOGearHead]

Thoughts on getting a trainer. Watching the O and seeing what these guys weigh is a bit of a disappointment to me. When Jay Cutler told me I had good size I didn't really buy into it, but then you hear the numbers of what these guys weigh and I'm thinking I'm doing it all wrong. I'm thinking with a trainer to walk my big dumb ass through sessions I could actually be a monster. Sadly all I see is fitness competitors and physiques people here. There is a gym where two people that look the part train, but they're powerlifters despite looking like hardcore bb's. I can tell by looking at them that their bp is sky rocketed, they literally are blood red, pinkish and veins popping out in their necks and face. They my bro's do not look healthy at all. They look like a hard fart would kill them. Should I seek out a trainer and what should I expect to pay? The 44

 

[RickRock]

You also have to realize that these guys are the genetic elite. I don't think having a trainer makes that much of a difference to be honest. They got to their size and the pro level without them, so that should tell you something. They are genetic freaks with the equivalent to a Michael Jordan of bodybuilding. In other words not just anybody can look like them no matter how they train, what they eat, and what they take

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[44YOGearHead]

You also have to realize that these guys are the genetic elite. I don't think having a trainer makes that much of a difference to be honest. They got to their size and the pro level without them, so that should tell you something. They are genetic freaks with the equivalent to a Michael Jordan of bodybuilding. In other words not just anybody can look like them no matter how they train, what they eat, and what they take

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RR I mean that of course is understandable, but I simply wanna max myself out muscle-wise. I have like zero plans to compete, but you know I'm all about being bigger. I could write up my own program and methodically go thru it day in and day out, but I feel sometimes on days you need someone to hold you accountable when you want to cheat a set or two. Lol, the also dont have the disadvantage of having to be my age playing catch up lol. Let's say if I had a trainer maybe it could push me further than I could push myself.

 

[Bigsteve5776]

I agree that a lot of the game has to do with genetics man if jay cutler told you you have good size hell I'd be happy think about day 1 if you've made great gainz and success since then your fine imho sometimes I think my training is shit but to see where I was when I started to where I am now its pretty obvious I'm just paranoid I've seen people that train and they refuse to take any criticism and claim they're fine it'll just take time they arnt wrong but some of the horrible form I've seen is why these guys don't make quality gains

 

[Bigsteve5776]

I can't say it with 100% truth but don't some of those guys inject synthol before the competition anyways thus adding additional size without the extra weight?

 

[44YOGearHead]

I agree that a lot of the game has to do with genetics man if jay cutler told you you have good size hell I'd be happy think about day 1 if you've made great gainz and success since then your fine imho sometimes I think my training is shit but to see where I was when I started to where I am now its pretty obvious I'm just paranoid I've seen people that train and they refuse to take any criticism and claim they're fine it'll just take time they arnt wrong but some of the horrible form I've seen is why these guys don't make quality gains

I dunno bro, I'm big on form, strict movements and volume; shocking the muscle, but I know there's always more to be tapped into. Criticism is the foundation for improvements that can be made so to shut them out is silly. That's why I'm debating on a trainer...

 

[44YOGearHead]

According to your stats you probably have the size. But I think it's the details that the extreme genetic freaks really separate themselves: symmetry, insertion points, waist/shoulder ratio, conditioning etc.

Smallest waist size I've ever had is 29", but that was with insane amounts of cardio and caloric deprivation. I recognize my flaws and limitations, just wanna max out what I can...

 

[cmb5017]

U willing to take a pro cycle? A few grams of test, insulin,hgh? 500 mgs and some sarms won't get u pro level that's just fact. You can get nice with less but if your talking Mr O, then that's reality

 

[Bigsteve5776]

I'm pretty good at self motivating due to my overweight childhood and through highschool I'm never satisfied with how I look I can be lean as balls but I always see a fat kid in the mirror

 

[cmb5017]

And u don't need a trainer..U need a coach, one with proven experience

 

[44YOGearHead]

I'm running a g of test, 600mg tren, 10iu of HGH now... making decent progress. I don't wanna run multiple grams of shit to be honest. A gram of something is plenty IMO.

 

[44YOGearHead]

And u don't need a trainer..U need a coach, one with proven experience

Duly noted, but I think hard to find in the city of fat asses I'm near.

 

[Bigsteve5776]

Duly noted, but I think hard to find in the city of fat asses I'm near.

Lol I'm right there with you I thought about a trainer when I came to a pretty Unbreakable plateau a couple years ago but I couldn't afford it I'm still young working sht jobs which in turn led me to aas use

 

[Saiyan]

I say go for it bro. You're a jacked dude but could be missing something to be that monster. And it might be a trainer to see what the last piece is. As far as price, can't help you there as I have no idea. But I agree. If I lift alone I do good. But if I have someone pushing me, I can kill that shit every time. It makes a difference that some may not notice until they try it.


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[44YOGearHead]

I say go for it bro. You're a jacked dude but could be missing something to be that monster. And it might be a trainer to see what the last piece is. As far as price, can't help you there as I have no idea. But I agree. If I lift alone I do good. But if I have someone pushing me, I can kill that shit every time. It makes a difference that some may not notice until they try it.


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I wanna try it, but I need someone who knows wth they're doing... I need a coach for real. I just don't see it happening easily because the San Anton area is full of fat ass jokes.

 

[cmb5017]

A lot of professional coaches offer their services online..via phone/skype..it's an option..it's pricey

 

[44YOGearHead]

A lot of professional coaches offer their services online..via phone/skype..it's an option..it's pricey

I'm gonna look into it possibly but I want someone to be in the gym pushing me harder than I'm willing to push myself.

 

[cbbram00]

I'm running a g of test, 600mg tren, 10iu of HGH now... making decent progress. I don't wanna run multiple grams of shit to be honest. A gram of something is plenty IMO.

I think the pros take more gear than that and definitely don't forget the Anadrol.

I know Rich P. was running 2g's Test, 800mg Tren, 300mg Anadrol and placed 7th...

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[Bigsteve5776]

I use to have a great workout partner about 6 years ago he helped me with everything I know dude was in great shape for his build he's like 5'7 And from the Philippines so he had a small build I think he was 160 at the time but I'm 6'2 and started at 255 with a pretty high bf % he pushed me and I'll always be grateful for that but he is a jealous type and when I lost a bunch of weight and started to develope and got bigger then him he didn't like that so he would start to critique my form when it was perfect and just act like a douche then when I told him I was thinking of doing steroids because I just stopped growing for a long time that's kinda where we parted ways because he refuses to do them but in willing to do whatever it takes to acquire my idea of the perfect physique

 

[stretch512]

I'm with Sayin - go for it brother Im always like: it's now or never and if you are feeling the desire then grab all you can now. What harm could it do to try a coach or trainer to help you and if you feel it's unnecessary later then try the next step.


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