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Hello Dylan

I’m 49 years old 185lbs and have been actively in the gym for many
years. My gains gave been minimal. I asked my dr about Hgh and
cypionate and didn't agree. My blood work testosterone level was 401.
I felt that in order to finally loose the belly and put on some size I
would peruse testosterone supplementing.

I need some guidance for what I am doing

Started in March
HGH Serostim .5ml 5 days a week (6 month package 7 vials 6mg)
Cypiolic Cypionate 250mg 1ml per week ended in April
Clenbuterol cycle (like you suggested Utube)

HGH ending next month
Cypiolic Milti Testo 350 ending this week
no clen

So I felt great at the start with the first staking cycle HGH and
Cypionate and Clen
waited 2 months added Multi test this time and my experience was
totally different
injections of MT were painful and couldn't work out as much. feeling
weak and lethargic.
I have one more injection of MT and then I'm going to finish HGH next few weeks

my concerns are what to do when I come off the Testosterone will my
regular system kick in and what can I do to have a better experience
when I go back on
I don't want to be totally dependent on Test I just want to keep my
gains and healthy fit look and eventually stay clean
 
You really should have asked these questions long time ago.

Yes you absolutely need to take what's called a post Cycle Therapy after you come off test.

Do you know what an aromatase inhibitor is?

Do you have any idea how dangerous it is to run Clen without knowing what it does?
 
It sounds to me like you probably have holes in your diet more than anything. Test and GH isn't going to fix that or make a substantial difference without getting that locked in.

You should have done a lot more research before starting. You need a pct coming off of every cycle, or you will just make your natural test levels even worse....and likely at your age recovery will be much harder.
 
man, this is a mess... you should have never did what you went through with being absolutely clueless on all of this... first of all, your test is in range and no doctor would ever put you on trt with a 400 test level and thats not even considered drastically low... of course you have to pct now... its not going to be an easy recovery now either...

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
Dylan
I have to get this all straightened out
Let me process your suggestions and come back with questions. To start do I stop and not finish my last injection of MT? And what about the HGH I have 1 more vile 6mg

And as far as the pct suggestions where do I obtain?

I am feeling better this week I had to take the week off from gym to recover. I feel like I need to get back in the gym ASAP.

I really went into this green and received bad advise from the guy selling me the products.
 
hgh has nothing to do with anything.. its non suppressive so you can do whatever you want with that... you can finish the one more injection, yes
 
Live and learn. A blood test is definitely in your near future.
 
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