First Cycle Struggle

[Crowman88]

Plan for first cycle was 400mg test E for 12 weeks w Aroma 12.5 EOD. Pinning mon/thurs. First 4 pins I alternated between glutes and quads. All 4 pins were crippling, so sore I was limping and could not sit down. Not much heat or irration in quads but terrible soreness. Glute got irritated red and hot all over the whole glute down my leg. Long story short I got test flu symptoms last monday. Slight temp runny nose no energy. Decided Monday to switch to cypinate, pinned it Monday and this past thurs in quads because of the knots still left in my glutes. Soreness has not been as bad no irritation but still today it's been hard to put socks on and limping around today. I understand my muscles are not used to this but is there any relief in site? I've been so crippled and sick it's been very tough to eat and train. Through all of that I'm up around 6 lbs after three full weeks look fuller harder and leaner. Strenth is starting to go up. I've watched every video and read every article on pinning and really feel like I'm hitting the right spots and being pretty smooth w my technique. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Iwannagofaster]

Man. I have been there. I had PIP(Post Injection Pain) so bad that I could not walk. It was to be expected. It was Bold Ace. I got a cold chill that night that made me tremble under 2 down comforters and long pants and a jacket. The pain lasted for 7 days.

For you, the test e should not be doing this. Unless it is 400mg/ml. We all react differently but this is severe. Test e is pretty mild. My first question is what concentration is the test e? Secondly, what brand.

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[Crowman88]

Phurious 250mg test e, 200mg cyp.

 

[cbbram00]

Sounds like your body is having a reaction to a foreign substance being put into your body. I've never heard of anyone having problems with PHURIOUS' gear...

 

[Iwannagofaster]

Phurious 250mg test e, 200mg cyp.

Everything I've read is that his product is pain free and properly dosed. Virgin muscle could be the culprit. I will say that if I switch brands of test, I can get test flu. It is very common. Try warming it in a water bath. Also, try pinning more often with smaller doses. I know that's sounds like the last thing you want to do but you may need to introduce it to your body in incremental amounts until you adjust to the foreign substance.

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[PSTMJ]

I have been running Phurious Test cyp for 8 weeks now... not once have I had any pip at all. I warm the gear with a heat pack while Im in the shower, and pin it after the shower. Muscles are relaxed, gear is warm, and inject it nice and slow. I love this stuff!

 

[Crowman88]

Thanks for the tip I've never warmed it before.

 

[Crowman88]

Hadn't had any color change un quads just so sore doing anything us a chore. The glute was red all over bruised at injection site w big lump inside, took 8 days to go away. I have not warmed it but I'm pretty damn steady during injection.

 

[Saiyan]

That's absolutely crazy. E and cyp should not hurt at all. Unless you are just a shitty pinner lol. Wonder if you could be having a reaction to the carrier? Have you used other gear in the past? If so, has there been any similar issues?


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[JM750]

It is virgin muscle. it def aint furious. Or a whole lotta ppl would be complaining.

 

[Crowman88]

Yea man I know the gear is good Phurious is the man, I know it's me I'm just trying to figure out what the hell I'm doing wrong. Just want to get back in the gym and go to war when I walk in like I always do and make some gainzz

 

[Crowman88]

No brother this is first time ever.

 

[MaxxPursuit]

Could be your body doesn't agree with the carrier oil (rare but happens) or your injection technique needs some work. PIP in a virgin muscle can be tough but not changing colors, knotting up, etc. It shouldn't bad as you're describing. Plus it shouldn't be bad everytime you pin thereafter. Definitely warm the oil before you inject. It should go without saying but make sure your area is sterile and everything is clean.

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[joonp]

Ur using test 400 on virgin muscles?!! U got guts. The only time i tried it i quit after 2 pins. I suggest u switch to 250. Much much smoother

 

[cbbram00]

I hope things get better for you... I had some pip when I first started but nothing as bad as you're experiencing.

 

[Crowman88]

Naw man 200mg twice a week.

 

[BigBusiness]

Your all good bro. Just virgin muscles being pinned for the first time, it gets better after each pin in that muscle. Try eating some advil and use a combination of heating pad and ice if need be.

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[bobhead]

Glutes and quads can be crippling. I would try the glute medius. You might be crippled the first time pinning it though.
Give yourself some more estrogen, your bruised skin sounds like your all dried out.

 

[Crowman88]

Glutes and quads can be crippling. I would try the glute medius. You might be crippled the first time pinning it though.
Give yourself some more estrogen, your bruised skin sounds like your all dried out.

Thanks man, heated the oil up this am everything went pretty smooth, pinned quad again. I will Def give that a try though.

 

[9th Wonder]

Try pinning your Ventro glute bro. There is a muscle on the side of your hip that when you stand on your tippy toes you will see flex out. It's perfect for pinning juice and can hold the most volume of all your muscle groups. The place you pin is about 2-3 inches, about the size of a golf ball