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With dosing at 350mg, he'll be receiving about 225mg total hormone. If he can put such clean muscle on, his test levels naturally are probably pretty high 225mg would put him around 1100 or so. Is that even worth it to shut his AMAZING natural levels down, just to hover around where he most likely is already, and to pct and then recover just to get back to where he started?
#TeamDreamCrusher
Lol....you advised him to run 500mg cuz it's really is 350mg
350mg test e puts me at 3500ng/dL
Dylan just posted his bloods running 350mg test c 2490ng/dL....so I don't know what you think you are basing your OPINION on
Your "LOGIC" is flawed thru and thru
350mg test e is a responsible dose and will yield good gains
It's laughable you state that 350mg of test e will shut someone down for little gain only raising serum testosterone to the same level as high normal ( because it contains only 245mg of actual testosterone)(even your math is incorrect ..
350x.70=245 not 225)
Your understanding of Testosterone is absolutely wrong
Serum testosterone levels usually run 7 to 10 times injected mg of test e (NOT actual testosterone it contains)
If I were you bud, I wouldn't overcomplicate things. Forget about the hormone/ester discussion. Base your dosing off what the vial says. You're right.. look around online and you see 500mg/ml is a "standard" first cycle. Does that mean you should follow it? No. Here's why... I believe in using the smallest amount that will merit results. Being that this is your first cycle, you'd probably get the same results at 500mg that you would with 350mg... just with more potential sides. Look at longevity. Think about how you will progress in your cycles. Approach it the same way you would nutrition. Say you want to build muscle and you begin eating in a surplus. Do you start conservative to control fat gain or do you go straight into a heavy surplus not giving a shit about fat gain? Is the little extra muscle you "might" gain from the heavy surplus worth the large fat gain? Or would you rather acheive your goal with less, making the process cleaner? Make sense? Approach cycling the same way. Learn how your body responds to these compounds. Learn how to dial in your ai. Find what works. 350mg a week would put you way ahead of any individuals natural levels so you will make huge gains. Don't rush into a higher dose for no reason because trust me, you'll eventually get there anyway. Approach this calculated and strategic so that you make the most from every cycle.I completely agree... that guy is making it seem like i'm going to see ZERO results because i'm already muscular and have pretty high natural levels, but most say i am going to see great results from running a TEST E cycle for only 12 weeks.
To be honest a lot of this is mental for me, as i've mentally hit a plateau after 10 plus years of training and dieting and know from a physiological standpoint my body will grow from 350-500 mg of TEST E..
So for the record - you advise i take 500 MG of Test E per week(injected every 3.5 days @ 250 mg),which is the equivalent of taking 350 Mg of actual Test per week (i get it now), and then take 0.25 mg aromasin EOD?
If your vial says 250mg/ml, don't settle on a dose based on that. Thats why you have measurements on your syringe. 350mg is easy to dose per week. 250mg x 1.4 = 350mg. 1.4 / 2 injections = 0.7. So to hit 350mg a week, all you have to do is pin 0.7ml twice a week. Easy.
1/2ml is 0.5ml so 0.7ml would be 2 notches past the 1/2 ml mark. 3ml syringes usually mark in 0.1 ml increments so it's easy to count up.im terrible at fractions, decimals, etc so on a 3ml syringe what marker would indicate .7
1/2ml is 0.5ml so 0.7ml would be 2 notches past the 1/2 ml mark. 3ml syringes usually mark in 0.1 ml increments so it's easy to count up.
Theres no dumb questions bud. Its always better to ask and learn. Glad to help.Ok thanks MaxxPursuit, i know that was a dumb question but i seriously had to know bro
With dosing at 350mg, he'll be receiving about 225mg total hormone. If he can put such clean muscle on, his test levels naturally are probably pretty high 225mg would put him around 1100 or so. Is that even worth it to shut his AMAZING natural levels down, just to hover around where he most likely is already, and to pct and then recover just to get back to where he started?
#TeamDreamCrusher
this is ABSOLUTELY WRONG!!!
350mg Test E will give you blood serum levels of 2450 to 3500ng/dL......2 to 3 times high normal range..plenty for a first cycle..hell plenty for most cycles
NOT 1100ng/dL as Alpha states !!!!
The whole point of me doing this is i've reached pretty much 95-97 percent of my full genetic potential. i'm busting my ass in the gym and staying about the same....
I'm also 31 now and do this for my career - so @ 500 MG of TEST E/Week for 12 weeks i expect to see some great progress, and with a super clean diet, on cycle aromasin, and great PCT i should be able to mitigate the negatives..
I see guys doing first cycles that are WAY more aggressive. What's wrong with my approach?