Ya bro, that's part of the mentality of nattys that I don't like. Those that haven't used think steroids are magic, which we all know they are not. There is no replacement for hard fucking dieting and hard ass work....natty or notIm a member of a group on fb that is primarily "nattys" and they have false expectations of gear to. Pretty their mindset is if you take gear you can eat wedding cakes everyday, train 5 minutes, and you'll be jacked lol