2nd cycle opinion

[gilly89]

stats
27 year old male
5'9 170 pounds
b/f% 14-15
training: 3 years of boxing, mma and strength training

nearly finished pct on my first cycle which was:

epistane 30mg/d 4 weeks with transdermal trestolone as a test base ( as I prefer not to pin )

also cycle armor for support and arimistane for an AI

pct: clomid + nolva and cardarine for 5 weeks

so for my 2nd cycle i was thinking of doing pretty much the same thing but using t-bol or h-drol instead of the epistane for 4-6 weeks with the goal of dropping b/f% and adding 5-10 pounds of lean muscle mass............. so my questions are is this a decent 2nd cycle to achieve that goal? is arimistane a powerful enough AI? I know that t-bol doesnt convert to estrogen but trestalone does and is there anything else I should add change?...........thanks

 

[MaxxPursuit]

Being completely honest.. here is the way I see it. You either get over pinning or aas just isn't for you. Like NY pointed out, theres a right way and a wrong way. With the way you're approaching things right now, you'd be better off training naturally and just focusing more on your training and nutrition than shutting yourself down for 4 weeks and trying to recover. What's the issue you have with pinning?

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[DylanGemelli]

stats
27 year old male
5'9 170 pounds
b/f% 14-15
training: 3 years of boxing, mma and strength training

nearly finished pct on my first cycle which was:

epistane 30mg/d 4 weeks with transdermal trestolone as a test base ( as I prefer not to pin )

also cycle armor for support and arimistane for an AI

pct: clomid + nolva and cardarine for 5 weeks

so for my 2nd cycle i was thinking of doing pretty much the same thing but using t-bol or h-drol instead of the epistane for 4-6 weeks with the goal of dropping b/f% and adding 5-10 pounds of lean muscle mass............. so my questions are is this a decent 2nd cycle to achieve that goal? is arimistane a powerful enough AI? I know that t-bol doesnt convert to estrogen but trestalone does and is there anything else I should add change?...........thanks

hey bro... unfortunately, its NOT a "decent" 2nd cycle... transdermal trestolone is NOT a replacement for injectable testosterone whatsoever... you need make a decision moving forward... you would either want to to run test, REAL TEST, in the injectable form, or dont use steroids at all.. you could run sarms with an oral, and it would make things better, but you still really need to use test here...

 

[DylanGemelli]

also, your pct is not complete... you need aromasin there to prevent rebound, which could definitely occur... not to mention, it raises igf levels, which is imperative to a full recovery... you should also be using mk2866, which was also not mentioned in your post... it should look like this..

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day



sarmsx has the full pct stack offered for purchase... you need to get things changed asap...

 

[MaxxPursuit]

didnt you know? this is what happens max!

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Lmao

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[MaxxPursuit]

also, your pct is not complete... you need aromasin there to prevent rebound, which could definitely occur... not to mention, it raises igf levels, which is imperative to a full recovery... you should also be using mk2866, which was also not mentioned in your post... it should look like this..

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day



sarmsx has the full pct stack offered for purchase... you need to get things changed asap...

That is what a complete pct should look like.

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[joonp]

I tried transdermal test before and its not even close to being as good as pinning. I still dislike pinning but u gotta man up and do it. Go long ester do u only have to do it twice.

 

[DylanGemelli]

I tried transdermal test before and its not even close to being as good as pinning. I still dislike pinning but u gotta man up and do it. Go long ester do u only have to do it twice.

very good advice bro... pinning does suck, its just annoying but it takes a fucking minute and its no big deal whatsoever... just more annoying after you have been doing it for years but for the gains, i dont even think about it... do it right or dont do it all! great post bro

 

[gilly89]

thanks for the honesty yea im not afraid of needles but ive never pinned b4 so its a little daunting and theres a certain stigma around needles but il get over it................so if I were to run 6 weeks of t-bol would I use test prop for 6 weeks starting them both at the same time or run say test e on its own for 3-4 weeks then add in the t-bol for 6 weeks while continuing the test of course and using cycle support and aromasin throught ? and are transdermal products worth it all? they actually advertise that they can be used as a test base during a cycle but i guess thats just marketing bullshit?

 

[Guarionex]

thanks for the honesty yea im not afraid of needles but ive never pinned b4 so its a little daunting and theres a certain stigma around needles but il get over it................so if I were to run 6 weeks of t-bol would I use test prop for 6 weeks starting them both at the same time or run say test e on its own for 3-4 weeks then add in the t-bol for 6 weeks while continuing the test of course and using cycle support and aromasin throught ? and are transdermal products worth it all? they actually advertise that they can be used as a test base during a cycle but i guess thats just marketing bullshit?

Your first cycle needs to be test and aromasin only, test 250-300 mg/week and aromasin 12.5mg everynother day (eod). Run it 10-12 weeks. PCT protocol as Dylan mentioned.

Transdermal test is VERY INEFFECTIVE. Too expensive and needs large amounts to get a somehow decent dose.