test 300mg 14 month cycle..PCT help

[jojo-snaps]

hi,

as the title suggests, i ran 250mg test but on some periods i did 350mg test enathate per week, for 1 year and 2 months now. But like a fool I never ran hcg while on cycle (mainly due to finances), but most importantly had a hard time coming off cycle because I didn't want to lose the 'confidence' or 'power' I felt while on cycle, now i've come to terms with it and want to stop but I don't know what I should for PCT because my cycle was obviously not the typical 3 or 4 month cycle. Most people recommend 4 or 6 weeks pct, however should i run PCT longer than 6 weeks considering its been 14 month since i've been on!?? i did all my blood work and all ranges came back within normal range and no cause for concern.

I want to take HCG as part of my PCT because I did experiment with it on cycle and felt my balls get big again after just a few days of use, so of course i want to deal with the testicular atrophy off cycle by using HCG but also kick start my natutal test production with the HCG and clomid and nolvadex and aromasin. Do i even need HCG for PCT or is it unnecessary? and how long should my PCT be? and what doses for PCT please? I dont need a lecture on being on cycle for 14 months , im well aware that was irresponsible but I'm asking for advice now to make things right.

cheers

 

[DylanGemelli]

hcg is not necessary to start with.. 14 months? hcg is literally the fucking worst thing you can do in pct so if you are not going to listen and want to do things your way, (and you can see where that has gotten you so far) then noone can help you... the simple fact is you have no clue what you are doing and not really what you are talking about with any of this... i know that myself personally am way too busy for anyone that wont listen.. i used to get upset etc about it but i now i just simply ignore and let people learn the hard way as opposed to trying to reason... i dont get paid for this so im not begging people to listen so thats your call... if you want to know what to do properly, i'll help you but if not, then i personally cannot help you


so, when you use testosterone, you are clearly adding large amounts of it into your body which causes you to eventually be suppressed when you stop using it because your body forgets how to produce it on its own... hence, the need for pct... so, what hcg does is MIMIC your lh and fsh, just like taking testosterone, mimics testosterone production which eventually leads to suppression, correct... so when you mimic lh and fsh, what happens when you stop using it?? im sure you can put two and two together... the reason you use hcg is to get your lh and fsh STIMULATED before pct, so they are not completely bottomed out because when you use test, they are non existent... just like when you run an oral without test... when you go into pct, your test is bottomed out.... when you go into pct using test, AT LEAST its much higher making recovery easier as you reteach your body to produce on its own... so if you use hcg BEFORE pct, then it gives that boost while your body learns how to produce on its own... HOWEVER, if you run hcg IN PCT or after, you end up suppressing yourself because you are just mimicking, not helping to jumpstart anything like nolva and clomid do for your natural testosterone production... NOT TO MENTION, hcg ALSO increases estrogen... so, i just want you to FULLY understand so you dont think its just someone talking and blowing smoke... this is fact... its easy to understand when you see it written down…

 

[RUCingdsgainz]

14 months man that’s crazy might as well just go on TRT lol

 

[jojo-snaps]

right thanks for your reply, therefore i wont use any HCG then. Can you please tell me what my PCT should be, you mentioned nolvadex and clomid, what doses and should i still use Aromasin and hwo much and for how long, thanks

 

[jojo-snaps]

don't remind me lol. I'm still 28, I believe I will recover well and mind you I don't think I will do gear again.

 

[DylanGemelli]

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.






clomid 50/50/50/50/25/25/25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 weeks of MK2866)
gw-501516 20 mg day