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12 week Test E and Orals questions.

BigBadSilverWolf

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Hi Dylan,
36 years old, lifting for past 15 years, off and on, Iv been lifting hard for last 2 years
5'11
215lbs
12-15% bf?


Iv been Making huge gains the last 4 months by eating super clean
3600 - 4000cals daily
and training 5 sometimes 6 days week

However gains are slowing down, and I have my 3rd cycle ready to go minus a couple things, namely N2guard (ordering soon) As you so highly recommended,.. I also have a bottle of Tudca and am thinking to add in some Nac and maybe using animal Pak vitamins, throughout and fish oils.... If that's not Too much?

Anyway Here is my next cycle...


1-12 test e 500 mg week.
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg EOD.
1-4 tbol 60mg Ed / Dbol 30 mg Ed
1-4 n2guard*
7-14 HCG - 500 ius' week
9-14 anavar 60 mg day first four weeks then bump to 80 mg last 2 weeks
9-14 proviron 75 mg day
9-14 n2guard*

PCT
15-18 clomid 25/25/25/25

My question is adding in finscar, for my hairline, can I run it through my cycle at 1mg per day or wait until after cycle to begin... Iv read a few contradictory reads saying it may conflict with the anavar because it's a dht derivative,

I also have some dbol left over from a previous cycle and wondered if running both tbol and dbol together would be beneficial?

Thanks in advance,


-SilverWolf

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Hey bro.... first of all, please don’t waste your money on something like N2guard bro...get yourself adequate and full cycle protection with Dylan’s new Organ ST:

https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st

I don’t think that stacking Tbol and Dbol together is a great idea... both are hepatotoxic of course, especially dbol...

You also want to run your AI from start to finish, not just the first 12 weeks... I don’t understand the logic behind using anavar the last weeks, with no test ... and why don’t you run proviron from day 1..? Maybe 50mg per day that is usually enough ...

Finally, you need a proper pct. this is what it should be:

Clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
Nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5 mg eod
MK-2866 25 mg day (4 weeks)
GW-501516 20 mg day
 
We do not recommend n2guard at all bro. Dont waste your money on that shit. Dylan's Organ ST blows it out of the water

Your pct is not even close. Run the pct Gian gave you.

Also I'd recommend running Post CT the last two weeks if the cycle and the two weeks that esters clear https://www.dganutrition.com/post-ct
 
Hi Dylan,
36 years old, lifting for past 15 years, off and on, Iv been lifting hard for last 2 years
5'11
215lbs
12-15% bf?


Iv been Making huge gains the last 4 months by eating super clean
3600 - 4000cals daily
and training 5 sometimes 6 days week

However gains are slowing down, and I have my 3rd cycle ready to go minus a couple things, namely N2guard (ordering soon) As you so highly recommended,.. I also have a bottle of Tudca and am thinking to add in some Nac and maybe using animal Pak vitamins, throughout and fish oils.... If that's not Too much?

Anyway Here is my next cycle...


1-12 test e 500 mg week.
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg EOD.
1-4 tbol 60mg Ed / Dbol 30 mg Ed
1-4 n2guard*
7-14 HCG - 500 ius' week
9-14 anavar 60 mg day first four weeks then bump to 80 mg last 2 weeks
9-14 proviron 75 mg day
9-14 n2guard*

PCT
15-18 clomid 25/25/25/25

My question is adding in finscar, for my hairline, can I run it through my cycle at 1mg per day or wait until after cycle to begin... Iv read a few contradictory reads saying it may conflict with the anavar because it's a dht derivative,

I also have some dbol left over from a previous cycle and wondered if running both tbol and dbol together would be beneficial?

Thanks in advance,


-SilverWolf

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let me fix this for you... i would highly recommend using my organ st product for your all in one protectant.. your pct is HORRIBLE and not long enough either... stacking dbol and tbol and FULL doses, are you high bro??? come on man! just drop the dbol and DROP the hcg...


1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-4 tbol 60 mg day
1-4 ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
9-14 anavar 60 mg day
9-14 ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
11-14 DGA POST CT https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct/

pct 15-20

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
let me fix this for you... i would highly recommend using my organ st product for your all in one protectant.. your pct is HORRIBLE and not long enough either... stacking dbol and tbol and FULL doses, are you high bro??? come on man! just drop the dbol and DROP the hcg...


1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-4 tbol 60 mg day
1-4 ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
9-14 anavar 60 mg day
9-14 ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
11-14 DGA POST CT https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct/

pct 15-20

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day
Thanks Bro,

Safety is always number one. I appreciate your help.



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Hey Dylan, so here's an update and another question. I picked up my mk-2866 and gw-501516, for my pct as you recommended, however the stack I bought basically included S4 for free (almost).. So the question is am I able to utilize this in my cycle or pct at all? Or just keep it for later?.. . I'm also ordering your on cycle support and pct support soon, I'm gathering everything I need before I begin.
I value your opinion....
Thanks in advance.

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Hey Dylan, so here's an update and another question. I picked up my mk-2866 and gw-501516, for my pct as you recommended, however the stack I bought basically included S4 for free (almost).. So the question is am I able to utilize this in my cycle or pct at all? Or just keep it for later?.. . I'm also ordering your on cycle support and pct support soon, I'm gathering everything I need before I begin.
I value your opinion....
Thanks in advance.

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you can definitely use s4 during your cycle but not during pct.. you can run it 50 mg per day for 12 weeks during your cycle...
 
So you think I should go buy another 5 bottles huh? Lol do have a coupon code you could send me for your post on on support? I'm gonna need one, ha ha but seriously I just have the one bottle now. 4 weeks 25mg/day or 2 weeks @50, or not worth it now?

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So you think I should go buy another 5 bottles huh? Lol do have a coupon code you could send me for your post on on support? I'm gonna need one, ha ha but seriously I just have the one bottle now. 4 weeks 25mg/day or 2 weeks @50, or not worth it now?

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definitely not worth it it you have to run it that low man.. just keep it for later... there are a bunch of promos on dganutrition now though.. i did a video on new promotions there... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWn4qcVrFL8&t=11s
 
definitely not worth it it you have to run it that low man.. just keep it for later... there are a bunch of promos on dganutrition now though.. i did a video on new promotions there... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWn4qcVrFL8&t=11s
Hey Dylan,

I wasn't in a rush to start my cycle, so Iv decided to get the extra bottles of s4...I also subscribe to your YouTube channel and have found a ton of information through your videos.

And thanks to your promo I now have 3 bottles of post and 3 bottles of on cycle support. Almost ready GO!!

Thanks again for your help



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