Advice / Thoughts on My First Cycle

[AdamTche]

Stats:

• Age: 22
• Gender: Male
• Height: 174 cm
• Weight: 89 kg
• Body Fat: ~23–25%

Goal:
Lose fat while building muscle (body recomp).
I want to reach around 10–15% body fat in 3–4 months and improve my overall physique.

Background:
I trained combat sports for 5 years (wrestling, MMA), so I’m not completely new to strength or conditioning.
I’ve been going to the gym for 6 months now, with proper discipline, tracking, structured programming and nutrition for the last 2 months.

Planned 8-Week Cycle​

• Andarine (S4): 25 mg/day
• Cardarine: 10 mg/day
• SR9009: 20 mg/day
• Calories at maintenance or a slight deficit.

My reasoning behind this stack:

• Andarine (S4): lean muscle gain, strength, improved definition
• Cardarine: better endurance & increased fat loss → harder training sessions
• SR9009: higher metabolic rate, increased calorie expenditure

I chose S4 because it’s generally considered milder and less suppressive than LGD or RAD, and Ostarine seemed too mild for what I want.
From what I’ve read, S4 also works well for cutting or recomp at higher body fat levels.

PCT?​

I originally planned not to run a PCT afterwards, since the cycle is relatively short and the dose isn’t that high.
But I’m open to advice here — do you think a PCT is needed at this dose/duration?

Any better suggestions, changes, or things I might be overlooking?

 

[Mobsterthemod]

Do what we call a 'mini-pct'

 

[AdamTche]

Do what we call a 'mini-pct'

What exactly does a proper mini-PCT include? Which compounds, dosages, and duration are typically used?

 

[Mobsterthemod]

What exactly does a proper mini-PCT include? Which compounds, dosages, and duration are typically used?

Have a search for the phrase here and it'll come up with all that info. Use Dylan's name as an added search.

Example: https://www.isarms.com/forums/threads/enclomiphene-dosing-for-mini-pct.59032/

 

[stevesmi]

What exactly does a proper mini-PCT include? Which compounds, dosages, and duration are typically used?

do hcgenerate and clomid

 

[AdamTche]

do hcgenerate and clomid

Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind! What do you think overall about my cycle, bro? Can I run it like this? Any better suggestions or anything I might be missing?

 

[Ulter]

Stats:

• Age: 22
• Gender: Male
• Height: 174 cm
• Weight: 89 kg
• Body Fat: ~23–25%

Goal:
Lose fat while building muscle (body recomp).
I want to reach around 10–15% body fat in 3–4 months and improve my overall physique.

Background:
I trained combat sports for 5 years (wrestling, MMA), so I’m not completely new to strength or conditioning.
I’ve been going to the gym for 6 months now, with proper discipline, tracking, structured programming and nutrition for the last 2 months.

Planned 8-Week Cycle​

• Andarine (S4): 25 mg/day
• Cardarine: 10 mg/day
• SR9009: 20 mg/day
• Calories at maintenance or a slight deficit.

My reasoning behind this stack:

• Andarine (S4): lean muscle gain, strength, improved definition
• Cardarine: better endurance & increased fat loss → harder training sessions
• SR9009: higher metabolic rate, increased calorie expenditure

I chose S4 because it’s generally considered milder and less suppressive than LGD or RAD, and Ostarine seemed too mild for what I want.
From what I’ve read, S4 also works well for cutting or recomp at higher body fat levels.

PCT?​

I originally planned not to run a PCT afterwards, since the cycle is relatively short and the dose isn’t that high.
But I’m open to advice here — do you think a PCT is needed at this dose/duration?

Any better suggestions, changes, or things I might be overlooking?

do the s4 at 50mgs and the gw at 20mgs. those are the better dosages

 

[CEO]

Stats:

• Age: 22
• Gender: Male
• Height: 174 cm
• Weight: 89 kg
• Body Fat: ~23–25%

Goal:
Lose fat while building muscle (body recomp).
I want to reach around 10–15% body fat in 3–4 months and improve my overall physique.

Background:
I trained combat sports for 5 years (wrestling, MMA), so I’m not completely new to strength or conditioning.
I’ve been going to the gym for 6 months now, with proper discipline, tracking, structured programming and nutrition for the last 2 months.

Planned 8-Week Cycle​

• Andarine (S4): 25 mg/day
• Cardarine: 10 mg/day
• SR9009: 20 mg/day
• Calories at maintenance or a slight deficit.

My reasoning behind this stack:

• Andarine (S4): lean muscle gain, strength, improved definition
• Cardarine: better endurance & increased fat loss → harder training sessions
• SR9009: higher metabolic rate, increased calorie expenditure

I chose S4 because it’s generally considered milder and less suppressive than LGD or RAD, and Ostarine seemed too mild for what I want.
From what I’ve read, S4 also works well for cutting or recomp at higher body fat levels.

PCT?​

I originally planned not to run a PCT afterwards, since the cycle is relatively short and the dose isn’t that high.
But I’m open to advice here — do you think a PCT is needed at this dose/duration?

Any better suggestions, changes, or things I might be overlooking?

Bros. I like the setup you put together here. Don't worry so much about PCT just some test booster and Clomid you good

 

[2Thick]

run the sr pre workout and the gw daily you are fine

 

[ROIDDERS]

Stats:

• Age: 22
• Gender: Male
• Height: 174 cm
• Weight: 89 kg
• Body Fat: ~23–25%

Goal:
Lose fat while building muscle (body recomp).
I want to reach around 10–15% body fat in 3–4 months and improve my overall physique.

Background:
I trained combat sports for 5 years (wrestling, MMA), so I’m not completely new to strength or conditioning.
I’ve been going to the gym for 6 months now, with proper discipline, tracking, structured programming and nutrition for the last 2 months.

Planned 8-Week Cycle​

• Andarine (S4): 25 mg/day
• Cardarine: 10 mg/day
• SR9009: 20 mg/day
• Calories at maintenance or a slight deficit.

My reasoning behind this stack:

• Andarine (S4): lean muscle gain, strength, improved definition
• Cardarine: better endurance & increased fat loss → harder training sessions
• SR9009: higher metabolic rate, increased calorie expenditure

I chose S4 because it’s generally considered milder and less suppressive than LGD or RAD, and Ostarine seemed too mild for what I want.
From what I’ve read, S4 also works well for cutting or recomp at higher body fat levels.

PCT?​

I originally planned not to run a PCT afterwards, since the cycle is relatively short and the dose isn’t that high.
But I’m open to advice here — do you think a PCT is needed at this dose/duration?

Any better suggestions, changes, or things I might be overlooking?

do it like this:

sr pre workout 25mgs
GW 20mgs a day
swap out s4 for ostarine

 

[RickRock]

Raise the GW dose to 20mg per day for optimal dosing and to get the full benefit

 

[ballin2504]

I like it. Looks like you did your research

 

[Noah Wixx]

Looks well thought out i like the cycle

 

[roofizer]

That stack is too much for a first cycle, especially adding three compounds and aiming for a deficit. Cut the SR9009 entirely. Focus on S4 and Cardarine only, and ensure you run a proper PCT despite the planned low dose.

 

[DavidDodd]

well, good luck with that...sounds like a good start!

 

[OC.Peps]

Good stack for recomp. A few additions worth considering alongside this:

On the recovery side during the cycle — S4+Cardarine+SR9009 is a harder training stack and the endurance boost from GW+SR means your training intensity will likely increase significantly. Connective tissue tends to lag behind the cardiovascular adaptations, meaning tendons and ligaments can become the limiting factor. Adding BPC-157 as a protective measure during the cycle (not just for active injury) is a common approach for exactly this reason.

On PCT: at 25mg S4 / 8 weeks, suppression is real but mild. The Clomid suggestion is appropriate. If you want to keep it lighter, Enclomiphene is cleaner than Clomid (selective estrogen receptor modulator without the mixed estrogenic effects at the pituitary). Either way, bloodwork at the 4-week PCT mark will tell you where you stand.

One note on your goal timeline: 23-25% BF down to 10-15% in 3-4 months is aggressive — roughly 1.5-2% BF reduction per month. Possible with aggressive caloric deficit + the metabolic compounds, but tracking adherence matters more than compound choice at this point. The GW+SR stack will get you there if the nutrition is dialed.