Drol vs Tbol for Powerlifting *HELP*

[starlord]

Bros,

I am I need of some insight from others that have more experience and knowledge. I have been somewhat of an athlete throughout my adolescent and adult life . I wrestled, practiced martial arts, and had my fun with "CrossFit" (I know.....). Well it's been about a year that I've been really getting into Powerlifting, like obsessed/addicted to PR kind of shit. I fell in love with the sport instantly.

I've done about 3 Test only cycles during my early 20's . It's been about 10 years since I ran a cycle , and I really want to run one that would benefit my strength; as well as , help me gain at least 10-15lbs of lean muscle. I currently would compete in the 198lb weight class, but eventually I'd like to compete at the 220lbs weight class.

1. What would be the advantages of running a Tbol/Test cycle as opposed to Drol/Test for powerlifting.
2. My goal is to work on a physique similar to the powerlifter Larry Wheels . I am a mesomorph so I think I can achieve something somewhat similar, now the elite strength that's another beast.

My Stats:
Height: 5"10
Weight: 204
BF% 15% (being conservative)
Age: Early 30's
Lifts(natty): Bench: 335 Squat: 475 Deadlift: 585

Any advice would be a big help.
Thanks

 

[cmb5017]

Drol and test is better for strength

 

[starlord]

Drol and test is better for strength

That's what I was leaning toward , if it was Drol then I came up with this: {Everyone please let me know how it looks or if any improvements can be made}

1-12 test C 500 mg week (2 pins)
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg EOD
1-4 Anadrol 25mg ED
11-14 hcg 1000 IUs week (2 pins)

pct 15-18
clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod

 

[cmb5017]

for the most part it looks fine..not sure on the hcg tho

 

[RickRock]

Test and anadrol will be better for strength gains, but Tbol won't be as harsh and a much easier cycle

 

[starlord]

Test and anadrol will be better for strength gains, but Tbol won't be as harsh and a much easier cycle

Yes I've heard that , so maybe I can tone it down by using Tbol (50 mg ED) instead of Drol ?

 

[DylanGemelli]

okay bro, here's the deal... anadrol is much harsher but its going to make you extremely strong and add A LOT of size, however there will be some water in there as well... nothing like dbol but there will be some... tbol will not be as strong but it still gets you a lot of strength and a cleaner size gain... if you add lgd4033 and rad140 with tbol, its like running dbol without any of the bull shit sides, so that would be a very strong option as well... let me put it this way, you can't go wrong either way... i just had an amazing run with anadrol but ive had several great ones with tbol... im impartial to both

 

[DTA707]

I'm running drol now and it's amazing for strength but harsh as hell. Make sure sure you run support, stay extra hydrated etc if you go that route

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[DylanGemelli]

I'm running drol now and it's amazing for strength but harsh as hell. Make sure sure you run support, stay extra hydrated etc if you go that route

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absolutely... hydration is a big deal that people tend to overlook... you also need to make sure you do not go too low on carbs with something that harsh... trust me, it makes a big difference...

 

[DTA707]

absolutely... hydration is a big deal that people tend to overlook... you also need to make sure you do not go too low on carbs with something that harsh... trust me, it makes a big difference...

I learned that one the first week. I only upped the carbs 100g and crashed hard on day 5. Tren combined with drol needs a LOT of calories.

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[starlord]

okay bro, here's the deal... anadrol is much harsher but its going to make you extremely strong and add A LOT of size, however there will be some water in there as well... nothing like dbol but there will be some... tbol will not be as strong but it still gets you a lot of strength and a cleaner size gain... if you add lgd4033 and rad140 with tbol, its like running dbol without any of the bull shit sides, so that would be a very strong option as well... let me put it this way, you can't go wrong either way... i just had an amazing run with anadrol but ive had several great ones with tbol... im impartial to both

Not going to lie !! After going through most of Dylan's YT videos I think I should wait and drop my BF to 10ish%. I was wondering if S4 would be a good means to reach this goal (with the correct diet and work ethic) . I was looking at the S4 & LGD-4033 stack to run for 12 weeks , but it's above my price range would an S4 only cycle be adequate?
I have to thank Dylan for all free quality content he outs out. Opens my eyes and wakes me up when I try and make myself believe in shortcuts!

 

[jp1957]

Also, your PCT is lacking, you need gw during pct to control the cortisol spike.

 

[starlord]

Also, your PCT is lacking, you need gw during pct to control the cortisol spike.

Thanks for the insight bro, but I'm actually wanting to do a sarms only cycle maybe two until I get down to close to 10% bf. Then I will probably go with AAS .

 

[jp1957]

You can get serious ass gainz with sarms, the downside is a real full blown sarms cycle is god damned expensive. But since you dont suffer shutdown and restart, I pay extra for not having to worry about shutdown or pinning

 

[DylanGemelli]

Not going to lie !! After going through most of Dylan's YT videos I think I should wait and drop my BF to 10ish%. I was wondering if S4 would be a good means to reach this goal (with the correct diet and work ethic) . I was looking at the S4 & LGD-4033 stack to run for 12 weeks , but it's above my price range would an S4 only cycle be adequate?
I have to thank Dylan for all free quality content he outs out. Opens my eyes and wakes me up when I try and make myself believe in shortcuts!

that makes my day to know i can help you like that bro... you can definitely go wtih s4 on its own... the stack you mentioned is extremely nice but bro, if you can only run one, s4 is the strongest sarm you can run... it won't give the most size of them all but in overall strength, it is the best... it will definitely help lose body fat and build lean muscle and obviously, the more muscle you have, the less fat you have... here are the links to purchase everything you need followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-s4-andarine

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138


1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
9-12 tongkat ali


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[Cwh1974]

You'll love sarms but they are dang expensive, I did mk2866 5-6 months ago an loved it, it's went up roughly 50.00 a bottle since then though

 

[44YOGearHead]

I like my drol dosed at 50mg daily... but that's me


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[starlord]

You'll love sarms but they are dang expensive, I did mk2866 5-6 months ago an loved it, it's went up roughly 50.00 a bottle since then though

Yeah bro I found that out LOL. Stacks seem to run more than common AAS stacks!!!

 

[starlord]

that makes my day to know i can help you like that bro... you can definitely go wtih s4 on its own... the stack you mentioned is extremely nice but bro, if you can only run one, s4 is the strongest sarm you can run... it won't give the most size of them all but in overall strength, it is the best... it will definitely help lose body fat and build lean muscle and obviously, the more muscle you have, the less fat you have... here are the links to purchase everything you need followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-s4-andarine

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138


1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
9-12 tongkat ali


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

Thanks for the cycle layout bro !!! I'm not really looking for massive size just yet . My main goal is to build quality lean muscle while dropping BF% and gaining some strength. I'm also pretty curious about the "mini PCT" and why it is done with Sarms. If anyone can refer me to a video or some info about this. I'll also look through the forum .

 

[ThepoManta]

Dylan, when talking about Anadrol being harsh on you, do you mean the toxicity?

Because for example, if you would try Anadrol at 50mg per day for 4. Would you then quite because of the lethargy?

Or is it about something else?