Ran into a few bumps with my cycle

[Flanex]

I'm going into week 4 of my cycle & I ran into a few bumps along the way...

The first bump was I started at 400mgs TestCyp & within a week my prostate flared up pretty bad.It felt like a golfball was wedged in my taint & I had to pee frequently.So I dropped it down to 350mgs a week & added some extra strength saw palmetto.It corrected itself within 3-4 days & I've since bumped it up to 375mgs per week with no problems so far.

The second bump I had along the way was when I started Tbol in week 2 @ 50mgs per day dosed 25mgs in the am & 25mgs in the pm.My BP skyrocketed.I've always had excellent BP.My doc said my BP is like that of a professional athlete.The last time he took it it was 117/78.Within day 5 of the Tbol it was 165/98.I dropped the dose to half which was 25mgs per day & still had BP headaches & red face.It was scaring me so I just dropped it all together.2 days later & I'm feeling normal again.BP has stabilized to almost my normal rate,still very slightly raised.
It sucks because I loved the way it made me feel aside from the BP issues.I got crazy pumps,added strength & vascularity from it.This the first oral I ever tried.
I really want to get this BP issue fixed because I have a couple of bottles of anadrol 50 I want to do during the Summertime,but if Tbol is doing this I hate to think what drol would do.

I'm also taking the test/tren base pwo & haven't had any adverse sides effects to date.I've been very conservative with it,keeping it at 50-75mgs per dose.I have to say aside from the burning while pinning it I am in love with this stuff.I get insane pumps & the aggression & focus is through the roof from it.The burning isn't so bad when I mix it with the test cyp & either way it doesn't last that long.I wouldn't classify it as pip.

Stats:
Male
Age:47
Weight:205
Height:5'8"
BF%:12-14

1-12 TestCyp 375mgs pw dosed 175mgs on Sunday & 200mgs on Wed
1-6 Tbol 50mgs pd dosed 25mgs am & 25mgs pm(on hold for the moment)
2-8 Test/Tren Base 50-75mgs pwo 3x's pw
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mgs EOD
2-8 Prami .5mgs 3x's pw

Typical week but it changes every week:

Sunday:Chest/Abs
Mon:Back
Tues:Shoulders
Wed:Cardio
Thurs:Legs
Fri:Arms
Sat:Cardio

Here's what I'm taking for protection:

1-12 CEL Cycle Assist
1-12 Extra Strength Saw Palmetto
1-12 Fish Oil Enteric Coated 2400mgs pd dosed 1200 mgs 2x's pd
1-12 Cissus Quadrangularis 1600mgs pd (for joints)
1-12 BCAA's,Creatine,Whey,Casein,Psyllium Husk,etc
6-12 Phenbuterol 595mgs 2x's pd

Viagra 50mg once in awhile for pwo

I have raloxifene on hand for any gyno flare ups

I don't thing that CEL Cycle assist is enough for me as far as the cardiovascular & prostate protection goes.I already had to add more saw palmetto & I'm going to add some CoQ10 & more Hawthorne Berry so I can possibly finish the cycle with the Tbol.I just hope the CEL is doing it's work for my liver values.Hell I'll probably get some Tudca while I'm at it just to be on the safe side.I'll be getting all this from Amazon for sure cause I was in Walgreens today & priced some CoQ10 & it was insanely expensive!I just had to laugh at how much they were asking for this stuff.It's literally 1/3 the price on Amazon.

Overall feeling good for the moment.I did legs today.Mostly light weight high volume on my quads because my knees are fucking shot.They feel like bone on bone.Blasted the shit out of my hammys & calves though.

My main goal is a basic recomp.I'd like to get down to <10% BF & add around 5lbs of lean mass.I'm eating at 300 cals above maintenance for the first half,then I will eat at a 300 deficit for the second half.Macros are dialed in @ 50p/30c/20f.

Any thoughts/criticisms are welcome.Also if you have any tips on supps for BP aside from what I already have,I'd appreciate that.That spike scared the shit out of me.BP is nothing to mess with.

Thanks

ETA:No PCT>I've been on TRT since I was 40,so I will go back to it (175-200mgs pw) with a sarms(LGD/2866/GW) bridge when this is done.

 

[Flanex]

***bump*** :/

 

[cmb5017]

Are u sure the tren isn't responsible for bp? Hard to believe cycle assist isn't keeping it n check..I'd add extra celery extract and Hawthorne berry...the prostate issue I have no experience with..I heard cialis relieve it some

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

To be honest increased BP during AAS use is quite common the goal always being in attempt to maintain, not actually control especially with the harsher compounds its just what it is i mean you are using tren think about which is more powerful OTC cycle assist or Trenbolone lol, tren wins. As for the prostate, ill let someone else address that i have not much insight on that

 

[Flanex]

Are u sure the tren isn't responsible for bp? Hard to believe cycle assist isn't keeping it n check..I'd add extra celery extract and Hawthorne berry...the prostate issue I have no experience with..I heard cialis relieve it some

I thought the same thing but it started a few days after I started the tbol,then when I stopped it went back down.I'm still doing the test/tren base 3x's pw with no issues.The viagra helped bring it down some but I didn't want to rely on that for my BP.That was a huge spike for me.I've read good things about that celery seed extract,but I eat almost a whole bag of celery a day,so that may have it covered.idk

 

[Flanex]

To be honest increased BP during AAS use is quite common the goal always being in attempt to maintain, not actually control especially with the harsher compounds its just what it is i mean you are using tren think about which is more powerful OTC cycle assist or Trenbolone lol, tren wins. As for the prostate, ill let someone else address that i have not much insight on that

I think I have the prostate issue under control with the lower dose of Test & the extra saw palmetto.Thanks Angelo

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

I thought the same thing but it started a few days after I started the tbol,then when I stopped it went back down.I'm still doing the test/tren base 3x's pw with no issues.The viagra helped bring it down some but I didn't want to rely on that for my BP.That was a huge spike for me.I've read good things about that celery seed extract,but I eat almost a whole bag of celery a day,so that may have it covered.idk

maybe the tbol was just too much pushed your body over the top ?

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

I think I have the prostate issue under control with the lower dose of Test & the extra saw palmetto.Thanks Angelo

glad to hear that bro, excellent !

 

[Dangans]

Believe it or not I forgot where I read it but S4 is suppose to help with the prostrate


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[cmb5017]

U could try a diuretic like dandelion root. Does it spike n stay there or is it up n down? And are u using a trust worthy bp machine?

 

[Flanex]

U could try a diuretic like dandelion root. Does it spike n stay there or is it up n down? And are u using a trust worthy bp machine?

Yea my wife has high BP & she has a good one that was prescribed by her doc.My BP stayed very high when I was on the tbol.Even when I lowered the dose.The only time it dropped was when I stopped it altogether.I'll look into that dandelion root.Thanks.

Geez all these supps cost more than the gear! lol

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

U could try a diuretic like dandelion root. Does it spike n stay there or is it up n down? And are u using a trust worthy bp machine?

great points here bro, spike vs consistent and what machine being used matters alot.

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

Also was this after pwos, workout, coffee, food, etc ?

 

[Flanex]

Anyone know why the test/tren base feels like FIRE going in??LOL

It doesn't last long & the bennys are well worth it but damn that stings!Is it because it's no ester or because it's tren?Never did tren before.I'm doing low doses like I said but so far I'm having zero negative sides from it.I'm hoping I'm one of those lucky guys that can do tren almost side free.

 

[Flanex]

Also was this after pwos, workout, coffee, food, etc ?

I don't take pwo except for BCAAs & maybe one cup of coffee.Sometimes a viagra.I've been watching my sodium intake too.

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

Anyone know why the test/tren base feels like FIRE going in??LOL

It doesn't last long & the bennys are well worth it but damn that stings!Is it because it's no ester or because it's tren?Never did tren before.I'm doing low doses like I said but so far I'm having zero negative sides from it.I'm hoping I'm one of those lucky guys that can do tren almost side free.

when you say feels like fire, do mean the pinning portion or the actual compound while its injected ?

 

[Flanex]

when you say feels like fire, do mean the pinning portion or the actual compound while its injected ?

The actual compound when it's injected.The pin feels like any other pin but when I push that plunger it's burn city.It only lasts 5-10min afterwards though.Not really a big deal,just curious about it.

 

[44YOGearHead]

You should avoid any medication that increases your blood pressure or constricts your blood vessels. These are medications such as:
-NSAIDs, like aspirin, ibuprofen, and naproxen
-Decongestants (frequently found in cough or cold medicine)
-Migraine medications
-Weight loss drugs
Lower your sodium intake as well. Vitamin C and Potassium help as well and it's proven.



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[Manolo]

Way to much gear dude .. My opinion !


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[Flanex]

You should avoid any medication that increases your blood pressure or constricts your blood vessels. These are medications such as:
-NSAIDs, like aspirin, ibuprofen, and naproxen
-Decongestants (frequently found in cough or cold medicine)
-Migraine medications
-Weight loss drugs
Lower your sodium intake as well. Vitamin C and Potassium help as well and it's proven.



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Thanks 44,The only one of those I was doing was the Phenbutural which I've dropped.

Way to much gear dude .. My opinion !



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Did you read what I'm doing?375mgs of TestCyp>50-75mgs test/tren base 3x's a week & a low dose of Tbol(50mg)which I stopped.This is a very mild cycle IMO.