Questions about SARMs

[10aaa88]

Hello Dylan

Background

55 yo male, who has led a completely sedentary lifestyle. Due to a rash of bad health news was motivated to change eating habits and lose weight. I have lost 75 lbs and now weigh 155 lbs. The weight loss came entirely through dietary changes so still lead a sedentary lifestyle

I am happy with the weight loss and would gladly remain at my current weight as it has come with improved health benefits . However, my wife has stated that I am now too skinny now and I need to put on some muscle or at least tighten up. Looking in the mirror I must say I understand what she is saying. Rather than skinny Scrawny would be the word I would use to describe myself now.

Why am I here

I have absolutely no interest in steroids because of their toxicity and the possibility of HPTA suppression, therefore SARMs seem to be the perfect alternative. Further research led me to your site. You seem willing to answer questions and I have plenty since as I said earlier I have very little experience if any with physical activity or work in the gym and do not know where to begin.

What are my goals

Honestly I am not sure. I know I do not want to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. I guess what I am looking for would be described as a lean but muscular look. I'd like to see a six pack while I am it. I have divided my goals Into 2 parts: Increased Muscularity and Increased Endurance

For Muscularity (The SARMs)
YK11
Rad 140
LGD 4033
Ostarine
Andarine

For Endurance (PPRMs and GH)
MK 677
Cardarine
Stenobolic

Finally my "Stats"

Height: 5 ft 10/5ft 11
Weight: 155 lbs

Questions:

Is it okay to take all three of the endurance products at the same time or is it overkill? Also if I could take only one of the three which do you recommend ie which is the most potent?

With regards to the SARMs I have the following questions:

Same as above for endurance products: Is it okay to take all five of the endurance products at the same time or is it overkill? If not which SARMs is the best to stack? Also if I could take only one of the three which do you recommend ie which is the most potent f?

Which of the five SARMs listed gives the best muscular growth from best to least

Which of the five SARMs listed has the most suppressive effect

Which of the five SARMs listed has the worse overall side effects profile


Thanks (I hope this is not too much info just wanted to be thorough to get the best advice possible.)

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hello Dylan

Background

55 yo male, who has led a completely sedentary lifestyle. Due to a rash of bad health news was motivated to change eating habits and lose weight. I have lost 75 lbs and now weigh 155 lbs. The weight loss came entirely through dietary changes so still lead a sedentary lifestyle

I am happy with the weight loss and would gladly remain at my current weight as it has come with improved health benefits . However, my wife has stated that I am now too skinny now and I need to put on some muscle or at least tighten up. Looking in the mirror I must say I understand what she is saying. Rather than skinny Scrawny would be the word I would use to describe myself now.

Why am I here

I have absolutely no interest in steroids because of their toxicity and the possibility of HPTA suppression, therefore SARMs seem to be the perfect alternative. Further research led me to your site. You seem willing to answer questions and I have plenty since as I said earlier I have very little experience if any with physical activity or work in the gym and do not know where to begin.

What are my goals

Honestly I am not sure. I know I do not want to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. I guess what I am looking for would be described as a lean but muscular look. I'd like to see a six pack while I am it. I have divided my goals Into 2 parts: Increased Muscularity and Increased Endurance

For Muscularity (The SARMs)
YK11
Rad 140
LGD 4033
Ostarine
Andarine

For Endurance (PPRMs and GH)
MK 677
Cardarine
Stenobolic

Finally my "Stats"

Height: 5 ft 10/5ft 11
Weight: 155 lbs

Questions:

Is it okay to take all three of the endurance products at the same time or is it overkill? Also if I could take only one of the three which do you recommend ie which is the most potent?

With regards to the SARMs I have the following questions:

Same as above for endurance products: Is it okay to take all five of the endurance products at the same time or is it overkill? If not which SARMs is the best to stack? Also if I could take only one of the three which do you recommend ie which is the most potent f?

Which of the five SARMs listed gives the best muscular growth from best to least

Which of the five SARMs listed has the most suppressive effect

Which of the five SARMs listed has the worse overall side effects profile


Thanks (I hope this is not too much info just wanted to be thorough to get the best advice possible.)

hey bro... i can absolutely help you here.. your a bit off with some things though... yk-11 is nothing i would ever recommend whatsoever... please watch my video on this topic here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk7hVO-4Vvg

mk677 for endurance? im not sure where your getting that from... it acts like hgh... its the closest thing to actual hgh you can get... it is one of the most versatile of them all... along with mk2866... 677 will burn fat but definitely add size and strength in the process...

so to your questions...

1. yes, of course it is okay... mk677 does not belong in this category so i am selecting between gw and sr... understand this... if i ever had to pick JUST ONE, and that was it, GW is always going to be my selection as the one I would want the most... its very close, but if that tells you anything...

2. muscular growth... lgd will add the most size... followed by mk677, rad14, mk2866 these are your top for overall size...

3. suppression is minimal with all of them... the three that have no suppression are gw, sr and 677... there is no significant difference in suppression when comparing the others... they all suppress minimal

4. i guess you would have to say s4, which happens to be the strongest of them all, has the one side effect with the yellow tint you see when switching from dark to light or light to dark... its nothing permanent but it can be bothersome...

i have the perfect layout for you for what your wanting to accomplish... you need to get some nice clean size... you will stay on mk677 for six months minimum but preferably a year... you do not take time off from it, even when you complete your cycle... after you complete your cycle, you need 2-3 weeks off from all other sarms and then you can start a new cycle...

you can get everything listed at www.sarmsx.com They have the best sarms you can find and i stand by that a million percent... here is the layout

1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 mk677 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day
mk677 25 mg day

 

[RickRock]

I think Dylan answered your questions quite well, and gave you a great stack that is perfect for your goals. I would honest.y take it just a step further and run the ultra Recomp stack, and add MK-677 to that to run continuously past the cycle through pct and beyond. MK-677 is better the longer you run it, and 6 months to a year is ideal for it.

Here is how it would lay out


https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/ultra-recomp-stack-12-weeks-2

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

*MK-677 run at 25mg per day this whole cycle, then continue on into pct and keep running afterwards

PCT

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

 

[9th Wonder]

You got some great layouts above bro. MK677 is very good stuff and stacking with the rest will produce some great results. Good luck bud

 

[10aaa88]

hey bro... i can absolutely help you here.. your a bit off with some things though... yk-11 is nothing i would ever recommend whatsoever... please watch my video on this topic here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk7hVO-4Vvg

mk677 for endurance? im not sure where your getting that from... it acts like hgh... its the closest thing to actual hgh you can get... it is one of the most versatile of them all... along with mk2866... 677 will burn fat but definitely add size and strength in the process...

so to your questions...

1. yes, of course it is okay... mk677 does not belong in this category so i am selecting between gw and sr... understand this... if i ever had to pick JUST ONE, and that was it, GW is always going to be my selection as the one I would want the most... its very close, but if that tells you anything...

2. muscular growth... lgd will add the most size... followed by mk677, rad14, mk2866 these are your top for overall size...

3. suppression is minimal with all of them... the three that have no suppression are gw, sr and 677... there is no significant difference in suppression when comparing the others... they all suppress minimal

4. i guess you would have to say s4, which happens to be the strongest of them all, has the one side effect with the yellow tint you see when switching from dark to light or light to dark... its nothing permanent but it can be bothersome...

i have the perfect layout for you for what your wanting to accomplish... you need to get some nice clean size... you will stay on mk677 for six months minimum but preferably a year... you do not take time off from it, even when you complete your cycle... after you complete your cycle, you need 2-3 weeks off from all other sarms and then you can start a new cycle...

you can get everything listed at www.sarmsx.com They have the best sarms you can find and i stand by that a million percent... here is the layout

1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 mk677 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day
mk677 25 mg day

Dylan, Rick thanks for the response

Combining both of your recommendations this is the stack I should use:

LGD 4033
Rad 140
MK 677
GW (Card)
S4

I have a few additional questions

The recommendation of LGD coincides with what I was thinking but I instead of Rad 140 I was thinking of Ostarine. Since both of you recommended Rad 140 I am just curious what is the logic/thinking behind Rad 140 vs Ostarine

For Mk677 I have 2 questions:

1 Since Mk677's effects builds up over time I was wondering if I start the Mk677 say 2 - 3 months before the cycle so it is already in my body when i start then I may get an even better effect during the cycle (I am probably overthinking it just thought I would ask).

2. In a log (I don't remember where maybe somewhere on isarms) Someone said that the body builds up a tolerance to Mk677 if taken every day and the way to get around this is to the Mk677 5 days on 2 days off. Have you guys noticed any tolerance when taking the MK677 every day and do you cycle it in anyway or do you just take it every day

3. S4: Of all the Sarms this is the one I want to avoid because it seems to have the worse side effects. I know it is a unique SARM that offer benefits not seen in the other SARMs so I get why it is recommended. I was just wondering if you know of an alternative compound that gives the effects of S4 but without sides. I was thinking of Proviron because though it is a steroid it is unique in that it does not have significant sides. What is both your opinions on replacing S4 with Proviron or with any compound you may know of.

 

[rockmfhudd]

I have been on 677 for 8 months and have had nothing but great results. the s4 sides aren't that bad I went up to 100 mgs per day on my first cycle and it was awesome but the sides were still there but tolerable for ME, now on my 3rd cycle and I keep it at 50 mgs per day I think you should atleast try it for what your goals are all you have to do is back off the dosing if you start to get freaked by the sides. 677 5 on 2 off I have never heard of I have heard about it on the s4. and as far as the question of proviron you certainly can add that. and I wouldn't necessarily start one or the other before the other just get the stack you want or what was suggested and start all at once. now what about your diet, you say you lost weight did you just stop eating or did you dial in your macros and intake and all of that? and I would suggest 1st and foremost get some bloodwork to see where your test levels are normally that way you have a baseline. cuz something is making you want to be sedentary. are you depressed or were depressed retired etc? just trying to pick your brain if that is too personal no biggie and last but not least order from sarmsx so you know youa re getting the real deal sarms

 

[10aaa88]

Thanks for the reply. The questions are not too personal. There was no depression. It was just daily life. I got married and wifey was cooking every day and over time just started gaining a lot of weight. Once you start to gain the weight you get more and more lethargic to the point that you just want to eat sleep watch TV. etc and I was just too lazy to do anything about it. Once I noticed my health started to change then I was motivated to lose the weight.

 

[rockmfhudd]

Thanks for the reply. The questions are not too personal. There was no depression. It was just daily life. I got married and wifey was cooking every day and over time just started gaining a lot of weight. Once you start to gain the weight you get more and more lethargic to the point that you just want to eat sleep watch TV. etc and I was just too lazy to do anything about it. Once I noticed my health started to change then I was motivated to lose the weight.

i was right there with you bro i retired AF and gained about 50 lbs or 60 and finally had enuff when i was out of breath tying my fucking shoes, if she likes cooking just do it healthier

 

[DylanGemelli]

Dylan, Rick thanks for the response

Combining both of your recommendations this is the stack I should use:

LGD 4033
Rad 140
MK 677
GW (Card)
S4

I have a few additional questions

The recommendation of LGD coincides with what I was thinking but I instead of Rad 140 I was thinking of Ostarine. Since both of you recommended Rad 140 I am just curious what is the logic/thinking behind Rad 140 vs Ostarine

For Mk677 I have 2 questions:

1 Since Mk677's effects builds up over time I was wondering if I start the Mk677 say 2 - 3 months before the cycle so it is already in my body when i start then I may get an even better effect during the cycle (I am probably overthinking it just thought I would ask).

2. In a log (I don't remember where maybe somewhere on isarms) Someone said that the body builds up a tolerance to Mk677 if taken every day and the way to get around this is to the Mk677 5 days on 2 days off. Have you guys noticed any tolerance when taking the MK677 every day and do you cycle it in anyway or do you just take it every day

3. S4: Of all the Sarms this is the one I want to avoid because it seems to have the worse side effects. I know it is a unique SARM that offer benefits not seen in the other SARMs so I get why it is recommended. I was just wondering if you know of an alternative compound that gives the effects of S4 but without sides. I was thinking of Proviron because though it is a steroid it is unique in that it does not have significant sides. What is both your opinions on replacing S4 with Proviron or with any compound you may know of.

while both rad and mk2866 provide lean muscle, rad is more focused toward your goal of the more cut and defined... while they both do this well, there is always one that will have an advantage, even a slight one, in certain areas... rad will give more "cutting" type results where there is more muscle hardening effects so to simplify the cycle, sometimes you have to narrow it down...

1. you are definitely overthinking... your going to be using it all year regardless so it will fall into other cycles etc... you CAN do that if you want but its not anything necessary

2. bro, that was never on a log here and that is nonsense...

3. you can use proviron here... its will not be as pronounced as s4 in muscle hardening and don't expect to see too much on the surface... i love proviron but its not going to do a lot you can se but more so, how you feel... increases in libido, well being etc... it does give a bit of muscle hardening but it keeps you dry and has anti estrogen properties... you could look to sr9009... it will keep you very lean with the metabolism enhancement as well as the increases in cardio.. it wont have the muscle hardening that s4 has but it will have a lot of benefit for you...

 

[10aaa88]

Hello Dylan, RickRock Rockmfhudd anyone, I have dome additional questions and am seeking your advice/input. In my first post I stated I was not sure what my goals were being that I was new at this. Upon further reflection, I have come with the following goals:

1. Muscle/Strength gains
2. Increased Endurance/Energy
3. Increased fat burning (decreased fat mass or more accurately decreased fat buildup during cycle since of there will be increased calories during the cycle)
4. Minimal to no side effect risks

I realize that the stack previously recommended would give me the results I am looking for but it does come with some side effects (though less than with steroids) so while I am not ruling it out, before committing to it, I want to seek any all alternatives that could give me close to my goals with as stated minimal to no sides.

With this in mind, I have come up with the following alternative stack

1. MK 677
2. Proviron
3. Sr 9009
4 GW (Cardarine)

From my research this stack should deliver with regards to goals 2 - 4 in spades. MK SR and GW do not affect hormones so side effects should be little to none. Proviron has no liver toxicity and suppression only occur at very high doses (above 150 mg - 300mg) and the most I intend to take is 100mg if that much so I should be safe there.

All four of these compounds are known to increase fat burning so goal 3 should also be covered

Cardarine and Stenabolic are both known to increase endurance (In fact SARMSX has an endurance stack with these two compounds which I intend to avail myself of) so I should also be covered with goal number 2

Goal # 1 is where this stack may fall short and I guess this is where I need feedback and advice as to whether my logic is sound. MK677 I know does increase muscle/strength so I'm partially covered there. I know Proviron has very little if any anabolic effects however the mechanism of action is that it increases free Testosterone therefore it indirectly should increase muscle and strength (though I am not sure of this). Cardarine and Stenabolic I believe also gives some slight increases in muscle and strength (though I am also not sure of this).

I realize that this stack does not come close to the recommended stack with regards to muscle/strength gains however given as I said in my original post I am not trying to be Arnold or the Incredible Hulk I am hoping this will be enough. Again as I stated earlier, I am not necessarily ruling out trying the recommended stack. I am just trying to exhaust all alternatives which would give me my goals without the risk of side effects before committing to the recommended stack Thanks in advance for any feedback input or advice.

 

[RickRock]

Hello Dylan, RickRock Rockmfhudd anyone, I have dome additional questions and am seeking your advice/input. In my first post I stated I was not sure what my goals were being that I was new at this. Upon further reflection, I have come with the following goals:

1. Muscle/Strength gains
2. Increased Endurance/Energy
3. Increased fat burning (decreased fat mass or more accurately decreased fat buildup during cycle since of there will be increased calories during the cycle)
4. Minimal to no side effect risks

I realize that the stack previously recommended would give me the results I am looking for but it does come with some side effects (though less than with steroids) so while I am not ruling it out, before committing to it, I want to seek any all alternatives that could give me close to my goals with as stated minimal to no sides.

With this in mind, I have come up with the following alternative stack

1. MK 677
2. Proviron
3. Sr 9009
4 GW (Cardarine)

From my research this stack should deliver with regards to goals 2 - 4 in spades. MK SR and GW do not affect hormones so side effects should be little to none. Proviron has no liver toxicity and suppression only occur at very high doses (above 150 mg - 300mg) and the most I intend to take is 100mg if that much so I should be safe there.

All four of these compounds are known to increase fat burning so goal 3 should also be covered

Cardarine and Stenabolic are both known to increase endurance (In fact SARMSX has an endurance stack with these two compounds which I intend to avail myself of) so I should also be covered with goal number 2

Goal # 1 is where this stack may fall short and I guess this is where I need feedback and advice as to whether my logic is sound. MK677 I know does increase muscle/strength so I'm partially covered there. I know Proviron has very little if any anabolic effects however the mechanism of action is that it increases free Testosterone therefore it indirectly should increase muscle and strength (though I am not sure of this). Cardarine and Stenabolic I believe also gives some slight increases in muscle and strength (though I am also not sure of this).

I realize that this stack does not come close to the recommended stack with regards to muscle/strength gains however given as I said in my original post I am not trying to be Arnold or the Incredible Hulk I am hoping this will be enough. Again as I stated earlier, I am not necessarily ruling out trying the recommended stack. I am just trying to exhaust all alternatives which would give me my goals without the risk of side effects before committing to the recommended stack Thanks in advance for any feedback input or advice.

Hey bud, I think you are just way overthinking the shit out of this. It's really completely unnecessary at all. The stack you out up is not going to give you much of anything for mass gains other than from MK-677, but that one being a GH secretogue is going to be slow and steady over time. Proviron doesn't make any sense here man. It's more of a libido and hardening drug. It literally does nothing at all for muscle mass or fat loss. If it were me, I would at least swap out the Proviron and use MK-2866 instead. You will get some lean gains from it, and MK-2866 is probably the mildest in terms of suppression. You will still need a mini pct afterwards as a precaution, but trust me that suppression will be ever so slight. To me that makes much more sense for your stack.

Layout looks like this

1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 Mk-2866 25mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)
1-12 MK-677 25mg per day dosed in the am

PCT

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

 

[jp1957]

Lgd,s4, rad,gw is one of the most kick ass stacks there is.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hello Dylan, RickRock Rockmfhudd anyone, I have dome additional questions and am seeking your advice/input. In my first post I stated I was not sure what my goals were being that I was new at this. Upon further reflection, I have come with the following goals:

1. Muscle/Strength gains
2. Increased Endurance/Energy
3. Increased fat burning (decreased fat mass or more accurately decreased fat buildup during cycle since of there will be increased calories during the cycle)
4. Minimal to no side effect risks

I realize that the stack previously recommended would give me the results I am looking for but it does come with some side effects (though less than with steroids) so while I am not ruling it out, before committing to it, I want to seek any all alternatives that could give me close to my goals with as stated minimal to no sides.

With this in mind, I have come up with the following alternative stack

1. MK 677
2. Proviron
3. Sr 9009
4 GW (Cardarine)

From my research this stack should deliver with regards to goals 2 - 4 in spades. MK SR and GW do not affect hormones so side effects should be little to none. Proviron has no liver toxicity and suppression only occur at very high doses (above 150 mg - 300mg) and the most I intend to take is 100mg if that much so I should be safe there.

All four of these compounds are known to increase fat burning so goal 3 should also be covered

Cardarine and Stenabolic are both known to increase endurance (In fact SARMSX has an endurance stack with these two compounds which I intend to avail myself of) so I should also be covered with goal number 2

Goal # 1 is where this stack may fall short and I guess this is where I need feedback and advice as to whether my logic is sound. MK677 I know does increase muscle/strength so I'm partially covered there. I know Proviron has very little if any anabolic effects however the mechanism of action is that it increases free Testosterone therefore it indirectly should increase muscle and strength (though I am not sure of this). Cardarine and Stenabolic I believe also gives some slight increases in muscle and strength (though I am also not sure of this).

I realize that this stack does not come close to the recommended stack with regards to muscle/strength gains however given as I said in my original post I am not trying to be Arnold or the Incredible Hulk I am hoping this will be enough. Again as I stated earlier, I am not necessarily ruling out trying the recommended stack. I am just trying to exhaust all alternatives which would give me my goals without the risk of side effects before committing to the recommended stack Thanks in advance for any feedback input or advice.

your one of those that is very thorough, which i personally love, however you seem like the type that tends to take it a bit overboard to the point of probably overthinking and overplaying circumstances.. i love to be cautious and safe but the stack i gave you have very minimal side effects.. now, you can absolutely run the stack you just brought into play, sr and gw work extremely well together, however your theory on proviron causing size gain is very inaccurate and that's where the overthinking begins and then just continues... your trying to create a circumstance to convince yourself of at least hope it may do more than it actually does.. i LOVE proviron, don't get me wrong, but i don't want you to try to scientifically create an instance that just does not occur.... you theory on size gain from it increasing free test is not going to happen.... it has many benenfits but any sort of size gain is not one of them...

you can run this cycle however you want... personally, i like the addition of sr9009 in there but your missing out by not using rad along with it...

 

[RickRock]

Lgd,s4, rad,gw is one of the most kick ass stacks there is.

Probably one of my favorite stacks of all for sure

 

[RickRock]

Lgd,s4, rad,gw is one of the most kick ass stacks there is.

Probably one of my favorite stacks of all for sure

 

[10aaa88]

your one of those that is very thorough, which i personally love, however you seem like the type that tends to take it a bit overboard to the point of probably overthinking and overplaying circumstances.. i love to be cautious and safe but the stack i gave you have very minimal side effects.. now, you can absolutely run the stack you just brought into play, sr and gw work extremely well together, however your theory on proviron causing size gain is very inaccurate and that's where the overthinking begins and then just continues... your trying to create a circumstance to convince yourself of at least hope it may do more than it actually does.. i LOVE proviron, don't get me wrong, but i don't want you to try to scientifically create an instance that just does not occur.... you theory on size gain from it increasing free test is not going to happen.... it has many benenfits but any sort of size gain is not one of them...

you can run this cycle however you want... personally, i like the addition of sr9009 in there but your missing out by not using rad along with it...

Dylan the reason I ask these questions is exactly what you said I like to be thorough. I am not arguing with you about the stack you recommended I am just trying to learn. For example based by asking the questions I have learned that Proviron is definitely not something that I should do for my goals From what you and other members have said, the products that would be ideal for me would be

LGD 4033
Rad 140
S4
MK677
Sr 9009
GW Cardarine
daa

From my research I have a pretty good idea of what these compounds do except for daa. Could you explain what is the purpose of daa in this stack Thanks.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Dylan the reason I ask these questions is exactly what you said I like to be thorough. I am not arguing with you about the stack you recommended I am just trying to learn. For example based by asking the questions I have learned that Proviron is definitely not something that I should do for my goals From what you and other members have said, the products that would be ideal for me would be

LGD 4033
Rad 140
S4
MK677
Sr 9009
GW Cardarine
daa

From my research I have a pretty good idea of what these compounds do except for daa. Could you explain what is the purpose of daa in this stack Thanks.

even though suppression is minimal, you still want to address it... by using daa, it helps leading into pct to make it a smoother transition... daa will minimize the suppression more for you... you dont HAVE to use it if you dont want, but i would recommend it at least 4 weeks right before pct... its one of those things that will help as a nice aide in this... its very cheap, easy to use and does what you need... nothing crazy drastic but enough to transition smoothly into pct...

 

[10aaa88]

even though suppression is minimal, you still want to address it... by using daa, it helps leading into pct to make it a smoother transition... daa will minimize the suppression more for you... you dont HAVE to use it if you dont want, but i would recommend it at least 4 weeks right before pct... its one of those things that will help as a nice aide in this... its very cheap, easy to use and does what you need... nothing crazy drastic but enough to transition smoothly into pct...

Dylan thanks I have another question I can only afford One of the following two options:

Option A: Two Ultra Recomp Stacks

Advantage: Full dose of Rad 140 dose (6 bottles) as per your above recommended stack for me
Disadvantage: No MK 677

Option B: One Ultra Recomp Stack plus 3 bottles of MK 677

Advantage: MK 677 included in the stack
Disadvantage: only 1/2 of recommended Rad 140 dose (ie only 3 bottles of Rad 140)

So the question: Do I go Option A which supplies the full compliment Rad 140 (6 bottles) but with no Mk 677 or

Option B which would include Mk677 but resulting in only half the Rad 140 dose (only 3 bottles)

Which of the two options do you think is better choice. Thanks

 

[DylanGemelli]

Dylan thanks I have another question I can only afford One of the following two options:

Option A: Two Ultra Recomp Stacks

Advantage: Full dose of Rad 140 dose (6 bottles) as per your above recommended stack for me
Disadvantage: No MK 677

Option B: One Ultra Recomp Stack plus 3 bottles of MK 677

Advantage: MK 677 included in the stack
Disadvantage: only 1/2 of recommended Rad 140 dose (ie only 3 bottles of Rad 140)

So the question: Do I go Option A which supplies the full compliment Rad 140 (6 bottles) but with no Mk 677 or

Option B which would include Mk677 but resulting in only half the Rad 140 dose (only 3 bottles)

Which of the two options do you think is better choice. Thanks

you do understand that you need to run 677 for 6 months minimum but preferably a year right? so after the cycle, you will need to get more of it.. so perhaps think about that first... if you plan on doing that, then just drop the rad dose to 10 mg and that way the bottles will last you through...

 

[jp1957]

1/2 dosage of rad is 1/2 the gainz...