Some guys would recommend you to take Deca Durabolin and this kind of things, but their gains are quite deceptive because most of these gains are just water retention. However, many people think that tren and EQ are not as powerful due to an apparently smaller muscle growth, but they add very clean and lean gains without water retention. Therefore, in the end of the day trenbolone with EQ will give the best gains, as they will be sustainable, and you won't lose them after ending the cycle.