Triple Stack urine detection window

[RunningGuyNY]

Hi, I've been semi-frequent lurker on this forum and I've asked Dylan a few questions, but even after a month of research, I cannot find urine detection times for SARMs, especially GW/Triple Stack.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hi, I've been semi-frequent lurker on this forum and I've asked Dylan a few questions, but even after a month of research, I cannot find urine detection times for SARMs, especially GW/Triple Stack.

half lifes are generally 24-36 hours with exception to s4 which is only 4-6 hours... blood test results are so skeptical still because the testing mechanism is not well known because its very hush and a rare test... being that half life is where it is, you can decipher from that but my thought is that 7-10 days and you would be clear

 

[RickRock]

Hi, I've been semi-frequent lurker on this forum and I've asked Dylan a few questions, but even after a month of research, I cannot find urine detection times for SARMs, especially GW/Triple Stack.

Active life and detection time are two very different things, but sarms a lot different than AAS and harder to detect, with testing for them being pretty rare. To be safe I would stop sarms a couple weeks before testing. Are you tested by WADA or another similar agency? Otherwise you probably wouldn't even be tested for them. There's not many sports organizations that do. If this is a standard urine drug screen, no sarms or even AAS are going to be tested for. It's only for recreational drugs, barbiturates, opiates, amphetamines, and alcohol.

 

[RunningGuyNY]

NCAA

 

[DylanGemelli]

NCAA

They do list sarms on the list so it is something to be aware of but im sure you already are...


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[RunningGuyNY]

I understand that it's a banned substance & if I do end up using it, I am responsible for any and all consequences. The problem is that I have been looking for a general estimate of how long it would be detectable on a urinalysis/mass spectrometry test, but the data seems to be kept pretty tight to anti doping organizations. I ended up reading the studies you linked previously, but I didn't see any actual windows of detection on the tables. I'll be sure to check again.

 

[RickRock]

I understand that it's a banned substance & if I do end up using it, I am responsible for any and all consequences. The problem is that I have been looking for a general estimate of how long it would be detectable on a urinalysis/mass spectrometry test, but the data seems to be kept pretty tight to anti doping organizations. I ended up reading the studies you linked previously, but I didn't see any actual windows of detection on the tables. I'll be sure to check again.

I'm not exactly sure on the detection time window, but being that sarms are oral based with short half-lives, I can't see the detection time exceeding 30 days

 

[RunningGuyNY]

30 days is far too long. I need a PED with a detection time of less than 48 hours. 72 at the most.

 

[DylanGemelli]

30 days is far too long. I need a PED with a detection time of less than 48 hours. 72 at the most.

good luck on that bro... highly unlikely

 

[RunningGuyNY]

Dylan, how are Olympic TF athletes getting away with PED use (EPO can be detected via blood analysis depending on Hematocrit levels & blood doping wouldn't provide as large of a performance gain as is shown with recent British & USATF improvement from athletes since college) when they are randomly tested?
Usually, procedure allows 24hrs in case of emergencies for a retest (in some cases). Thus, it can be deduced that there is a PED with a detection window right around 24 hours being used, true?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Dylan, how are Olympic TF athletes getting away with PED use (EPO can be detected via blood analysis depending on Hematocrit levels & blood doping wouldn't provide as large of a performance gain as is shown with recent British & USATF improvement from athletes since college) when they are randomly tested?
Usually, procedure allows 24hrs in case of emergencies for a retest (in some cases). Thus, it can be deduced that there is a PED with a detection window right around 24 hours being used, true?

bro i have no clue... i dont participate in any of that and i dont go near it nor advise it whatsoever... that's not my thing and i honestly don't want a part in that..im sorry but i get uncomfortable with that for many reasons and im not really the one to go to for that type of information... i stay ignorant on it for a reason