I agree with Dylan here. Its positive effects are very weak, and yet the side effects are very prominent. While it is not liver toxic, it is very suppressive, and will take a very hard hit on your cardio performance and endurance. Additionally, it can cause estrogen and prolactin related side effects. All of this trouble is not even nearly worth it for the doubtful effects you will get from it. Depending on your goals, I would either opt for SARMS, or normal steroids right away.