SARMS MK + GW

[transformer24]

One of the comments made on Dylan's youtube video was something along the lines of... " its a marathon, not a race." Is that right? I started GW and MK yesterday at the lower end of the dosages. So I'm doing the MK at 12.5 mg instead of 25 mg and the GW at 10 mg instaed of 20 mg. From the youtube vids and articles I have gathered that 10 mg of GW will give me very solid results in terms of endurance with some fat burning... not as much as 20, but 10 is fine right? I'm curious about the MK... Is 12.5 mg going to do anything? I also have a prescription for 60 mg of raloxafene (it's a SERM like Nolva for those that havent heard of it). So here it is made simple:

10 mg of GW
12.5 mg MK
60 mg of Raloxafene


What kind of results might I see with these doses?

-This being my 2nd day on these, my morning workout was this (I do hi intensity type cardio in the early day about 4 times a week):

3 rounds of

x20 burpees
x75 jumping jacks
x50 high knees
5 min jog

**I don't know if it was just a good day or what the fuck was going on, but I was barely even out of breath doing this stuff! Something else from the youtube vids about GW was that your endurance goes up as you get further into the workout as opposed to getting more tired... That was true on day 2 for me! Is that possible? I did this circuit at least twice as fast as usual and I'm usually pretty gassed after it, but damn not today brother! Thoughts?????????

 

[RickRock]

One of the comments made on Dylan's youtube video was something along the lines of... " its a marathon, not a race." Is that right? I started GW and MK yesterday at the lower end of the dosages. So I'm doing the MK at 12.5 mg instead of 25 mg and the GW at 10 mg instaed of 20 mg. From the youtube vids and articles I have gathered that 10 mg of GW will give me very solid results in terms of endurance with some fat burning... not as much as 20, but 10 is fine right? I'm curious about the MK... Is 12.5 mg going to do anything? I also have a prescription for 60 mg of raloxafene (it's a SERM like Nolva for those that havent heard of it). So here it is made simple:

10 mg of GW
12.5 mg MK
60 mg of Raloxafene


What kind of results might I see with these doses?

-This being my 2nd day on these, my morning workout was this (I do hi intensity type cardio in the early day about 4 times a week):

3 rounds of

x20 burpees
x75 jumping jacks
x50 high knees
5 min jog

**I don't know if it was just a good day or what the fuck was going on, but I was barely even out of breath doing this stuff! Something else from the youtube vids about GW was that your endurance goes up as you get further into the workout as opposed to getting more tired... That was true on day 2 for me! Is that possible? I did this circuit at least twice as fast as usual and I'm usually pretty gassed after it, but damn not today brother! Thoughts?????????

That's very good that you are having some great results at those dosages, especially in the endurance department. You will certainly see results at those dosages, though running MK-2866 at 25mg ED and GW at 20mg is ideal if you have the means for best results. Sarms don't carry the side effects of AAS, so there's no reason not to run them at their ideal dosage.

 

[transformer24]

Thanks 4 the feedback brother! Definitely appreciate you guys!

 

[RickRock]

Thanks 4 the feedback brother! Definitely appreciate you guys!

No problem at all man! Anytime!

 

[DylanGemelli]

One of the comments made on Dylan's youtube video was something along the lines of... " its a marathon, not a race." Is that right? I started GW and MK yesterday at the lower end of the dosages. So I'm doing the MK at 12.5 mg instead of 25 mg and the GW at 10 mg instaed of 20 mg. From the youtube vids and articles I have gathered that 10 mg of GW will give me very solid results in terms of endurance with some fat burning... not as much as 20, but 10 is fine right? I'm curious about the MK... Is 12.5 mg going to do anything? I also have a prescription for 60 mg of raloxafene (it's a SERM like Nolva for those that havent heard of it). So here it is made simple:

10 mg of GW
12.5 mg MK
60 mg of Raloxafene


What kind of results might I see with these doses?

-This being my 2nd day on these, my morning workout was this (I do hi intensity type cardio in the early day about 4 times a week):

3 rounds of

x20 burpees
x75 jumping jacks
x50 high knees
5 min jog

**I don't know if it was just a good day or what the fuck was going on, but I was barely even out of breath doing this stuff! Something else from the youtube vids about GW was that your endurance goes up as you get further into the workout as opposed to getting more tired... That was true on day 2 for me! Is that possible? I did this circuit at least twice as fast as usual and I'm usually pretty gassed after it, but damn not today brother! Thoughts?????????

one thing about gw is it is EXTREMELY fast acting and you notice it beginning to work rather quickly and 2 days in is nothing unheard of to see it begin... it only gets better the harder you push as well so keep that in mind as you proceed forward!

sarms are quite different than steroids and yes, i preach a marathon and not a sprint but by opting for sarms first, you already started the marathon as opposed to attempting to start sprinting... while that motto holds true, that does not correlate to actual sarms dosing... you need to be in the high effective zone as opposed to doing things as you are which is still decent but nowhere near where you should be... you don't have any toxic or methylated sides and the doses that are recommended will not cause nay adverse effects whatsoever but you are dosing rather low.. i would get mk up to 25 and gw to 20 asap... the only time i have mk tapered up is with females and you dont need to do that...

you will find that the workout you are doing will be up to levels you never dreamed... for instance, that 20 burpees will be 100 in no time... just watch... i know its sounds like a lot but bro, in my prime i was a set of 200 burpees... yes, 200, NO REST, continuous, IN THE GRASS... YES.. i did that for over a year and that was like a snack to the entire workout... so just wait... i didn't even have gw at that time either so imagine what you can do with it...

 

[transformer24]

Holy shit! 200! I'd like to do those dosages and I'm probably just being over cautious be of my other prescription medications. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about 4 years ago. I went through a lot to find a combination of meds that stabilized me. I quit drinking and smoking and lost the 50 lbs of fat I was carrying around. I haven't had a drink in over a year or smoked a cigarette since my wife found out she was pregnant. So I really accomplished a lot this year, and I've been so impulsive in the past with different substances. A lot of people with bipolar are afraid to talk about it because people are very judgemental. I have no problem mentioning it bc A. I'm not the only bipolar person on this forum and maybe this will help somebody (feel free to reach out and PM me or whatever if this is something any of you struggle with) B. Bc it took a lot of courage, will power and guts to get to where I am now and I'm here bc you guys are experts in the fitness world.

To tell you the truth... Losing weight, putting on muscle...that's the easy part. That's the best part of my day. When I get to lift, or run, or get on the court and hoop.
So you probably can understand why I am being extra cautious... I know you guys probably aren't doctors. Maybe some of you are. Either way I'm going to list my meds and if anybody sees some huge issue w me upping my doses to 20 mg of GW and 25 mg of MK let me know. Thanks for reading this and I hope that this helps someone else realize that if they struggle w bipolar, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel. It's a dark tunnel...but trust me, there's a light there!

My Meds:
Wellbutrin SR 200 mg 2x per day (antidepressant, great bc there is no weight gain associated, which there often is w antidepressants)

Lamictal 200 mg ( mood stabilizer, also no weight gain)

Vyvanse 70 mg ( long acting amphetamine) - main concern w upping the GW that bw GW and Vyvanse, I'll never sleep

Hydroxyzine 25 mg 1-4 xper day as needed ( I take this for allergies, makes me kind of sleepy, so I try to take at bedtime)

Raloxaphene 60 mg X1 per day for existing gyno, which is almost gone!!!!!!!

So there's my mental stack. With all that said I'm probably still going to up the GW and MK.

****** again if anyone needs help dealing with mental issues or meds I am willing and able to help you!******* Thanks!

 

[spicoli]

I'm still new to the sarms but I'm liking them as well, so for what it's worth if you're going to up the dose just pay close attention for any unwanted sides that you may be worried about for your condition.

Do you mind sharing your experience with gyno? I have some ralox on the way and am hoping it does the job. I didn't control estrogen on my last cycle and developed a little bit of gyno. I'm finishing up my pct this week and it has shrunk but it's still more than I'm comfortable with.

Looking forward to hearing more about your results

 

[transformer24]

I'm still new to the sarms but I'm liking them as well, so for what it's worth if you're going to up the dose just pay close attention for any unwanted sides that you may be worried about for your condition.

Do you mind sharing your experience with gyno? I have some ralox on the way and am hoping it does the job. I didn't control estrogen on my last cycle and developed a little bit of gyno. I'm finishing up my pct this week and it has shrunk but it's still more than I'm comfortable with.

Looking forward to hearing more about your results

I got gyno about 6 years ago. I worked at a gym where gear was pretty readily available. I was a total idiot and botched the whole fucking thing. I didn't know what I was doing. I got the lump on the right side, got some arimidex which got rid of the lump but I couldn't get enough to get the bitch tits and puffy nips to go away. At that point I was just in a mental shitstorm and said fuck it and pretty much gave up on myself. the bitch tits got worse bc I added fat to the equation. Fast forward to May 2015, I made the decision to get back in shape and lose the weight and be an athlete again. I didn't want to set a bad example for my son and to tell you the truth I couldn't stand what I was looking at in the mirror bc I knew I was better than that. After I lost about 40 lbs (so about 2 weeks ago), I went and saw a breast specialist. I know it sounds kind of funny, but that's a good way to get your tits fixed... a breast doc :shock: :lol: He said most of the fat was gone and what I was dealing with now was glandular gyno (gear induced). He prescribed the ralox, made a plan to run 60 mg ED for 3-6 months. If I still have gyno at the 6 month mark, I basically have to throw in the towel and get the surgery.

I hope the Ralox helps you brother! Best of luck 2 u!

 

[SpikedEggnog]

I'm still new to the sarms but I'm liking them as well, so for what it's worth if you're going to up the dose just pay close attention for any unwanted sides that you may be worried about for your condition.

Do you mind sharing your experience with gyno? I have some ralox on the way and am hoping it does the job. I didn't control estrogen on my last cycle and developed a little bit of gyno. I'm finishing up my pct this week and it has shrunk but it's still more than I'm comfortable with.

Looking forward to hearing more about your results

whered you order Ralox from?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Holy shit! 200! I'd like to do those dosages and I'm probably just being over cautious be of my other prescription medications. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about 4 years ago. I went through a lot to find a combination of meds that stabilized me. I quit drinking and smoking and lost the 50 lbs of fat I was carrying around. I haven't had a drink in over a year or smoked a cigarette since my wife found out she was pregnant. So I really accomplished a lot this year, and I've been so impulsive in the past with different substances. A lot of people with bipolar are afraid to talk about it because people are very judgemental. I have no problem mentioning it bc A. I'm not the only bipolar person on this forum and maybe this will help somebody (feel free to reach out and PM me or whatever if this is something any of you struggle with) B. Bc it took a lot of courage, will power and guts to get to where I am now and I'm here bc you guys are experts in the fitness world.

To tell you the truth... Losing weight, putting on muscle...that's the easy part. That's the best part of my day. When I get to lift, or run, or get on the court and hoop.
So you probably can understand why I am being extra cautious... I know you guys probably aren't doctors. Maybe some of you are. Either way I'm going to list my meds and if anybody sees some huge issue w me upping my doses to 20 mg of GW and 25 mg of MK let me know. Thanks for reading this and I hope that this helps someone else realize that if they struggle w bipolar, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel. It's a dark tunnel...but trust me, there's a light there!

My Meds:
Wellbutrin SR 200 mg 2x per day (antidepressant, great bc there is no weight gain associated, which there often is w antidepressants)

Lamictal 200 mg ( mood stabilizer, also no weight gain)

Vyvanse 70 mg ( long acting amphetamine) - main concern w upping the GW that bw GW and Vyvanse, I'll never sleep

Hydroxyzine 25 mg 1-4 xper day as needed ( I take this for allergies, makes me kind of sleepy, so I try to take at bedtime)

Raloxaphene 60 mg X1 per day for existing gyno, which is almost gone!!!!!!!

So there's my mental stack. With all that said I'm probably still going to up the GW and MK.

****** again if anyone needs help dealing with mental issues or meds I am willing and able to help you!******* Thanks!

I truly commend you on so many levels... the first being the way you approach and handle your situation... your someone that i have a great deal of respect for as to how you tackle this head on and don't take no for an answer... your beating this regardless and i love that man... truly...

as far as your meds, you have no contradiction with sarms whatsoever and raising the dose would have no adverse effect whatsoever...

how do you like raloxfene? im doing some writeups and videos on it soon... pure essence will be carrying that in their new product list soon!

 

[transformer24]

Holy shit! 200! I'd like to do those dosages and I'm probably just being over cautious be of my other prescription medications. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about 4 years ago. I went through a lot to find a combination of meds that stabilized me. I quit drinking and smoking and lost the 50 lbs of fat I was carrying around. I haven't had a drink in over a year or smoked a cigarette since my wife found out she was pregnant. So I really accomplished a lot this year, and I've been so impulsive in the past with different substances. A lot of people with bipolar are afraid to talk about it because people are very judgemental. I have no problem mentioning it bc A. I'm not the only bipolar person on this forum and maybe this will help somebody (feel free to reach out and PM me or whatever if this is something any of you struggle with) B. Bc it took a lot of courage, will power and guts to get to where I am now and I'm here bc you guys are experts in the fitness world.

To tell you the truth... Losing weight, putting on muscle...that's the easy part. That's the best part of my day. When I get to lift, or run, or get on the court and hoop.
So you probably can understand why I am being extra cautious... I know you guys probably aren't doctors. Maybe some of you are. Either way I'm going to list my meds and if anybody sees some huge issue w me upping my doses to 20 mg of GW and 25 mg of MK let me know. Thanks for reading this and I hope that this helps someone else realize that if they struggle w bipolar, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel. It's a dark tunnel...but trust me, there's a light there!

My Meds:
Wellbutrin SR 200 mg 2x per day (antidepressant, great bc there is no weight gain associated, which there often is w antidepressants)

Lamictal 200 mg ( mood stabilizer, also no weight gain)

Vyvanse 70 mg ( long acting amphetamine) - main concern w upping the GW that bw GW and Vyvanse, I'll never sleep

Hydroxyzine 25 mg 1-4 xper day as needed ( I take this for allergies, makes me kind of sleepy, so I try to take at bedtime)

Raloxaphene 60 mg X1 per day for existing gyno, which is almost gone!!!!!!!

So there's my mental stack. With all that said I'm probably still going to up the GW and MK.

****** again if anyone needs help dealing with mental issues or meds I am willing and able to help you!******* Thanks!

I truly commend you on so many levels... the first being the way you approach and handle your situation... your someone that i have a great deal of respect for as to how you tackle this head on and don't take no for an answer... your beating this regardless and i love that man... truly...

as far as your meds, you have no contradiction with sarms whatsoever and raising the dose would have no adverse effect whatsoever...

how do you like raloxfene? im doing some writeups and videos on it soon... pure essence will be carrying that in their new product list soon!

Thanks bro! That means a lot.

Raloxaphene- It has done nothing but good for me thus far. I don't have a whole lot to compare it to, but I can tell you that my doc was kind of debating out loud what he should give me bw raloxifene (evista) and tamoxifen (nolvadex). The way he explained it to me was that the better option would be to go with the ralox bc it would be just as effective or even more effective with less side effects. I don't really have any experience with nolva... but as far as ralox goes, it has been of great help in a short amount of time. Ralox= g2g

**Anyone reading this who doesn't know, Raloxifene is a SERM like Nolvadex is a SERM. That's a selective estrogen receptor modulator. This means it is an antagonist to estrogen in the areas that cause gyno for instance and an agonist to estrogen in areas like your bones. It is selective in its action. Clomid is another example.

-Pretty sure that's accurate... not an expert but thats my understanding with limited experience

 

[spicoli]

I'm still new to the sarms but I'm liking them as well, so for what it's worth if you're going to up the dose just pay close attention for any unwanted sides that you may be worried about for your condition.

Do you mind sharing your experience with gyno? I have some ralox on the way and am hoping it does the job. I didn't control estrogen on my last cycle and developed a little bit of gyno. I'm finishing up my pct this week and it has shrunk but it's still more than I'm comfortable with.

Looking forward to hearing more about your results

whered you order Ralox from?

ordered it from safe meds 4 all . com, good price over there

 

[spicoli]

I'm still new to the sarms but I'm liking them as well, so for what it's worth if you're going to up the dose just pay close attention for any unwanted sides that you may be worried about for your condition.

Do you mind sharing your experience with gyno? I have some ralox on the way and am hoping it does the job. I didn't control estrogen on my last cycle and developed a little bit of gyno. I'm finishing up my pct this week and it has shrunk but it's still more than I'm comfortable with.

Looking forward to hearing more about your results

I got gyno about 6 years ago. I worked at a gym where gear was pretty readily available. I was a total idiot and botched the whole fucking thing. I didn't know what I was doing. I got the lump on the right side, got some arimidex which got rid of the lump but I couldn't get enough to get the bitch tits and puffy nips to go away. At that point I was just in a mental shitstorm and said fuck it and pretty much gave up on myself. the bitch tits got worse bc I added fat to the equation. Fast forward to May 2015, I made the decision to get back in shape and lose the weight and be an athlete again. I didn't want to set a bad example for my son and to tell you the truth I couldn't stand what I was looking at in the mirror bc I knew I was better than that. After I lost about 40 lbs (so about 2 weeks ago), I went and saw a breast specialist. I know it sounds kind of funny, but that's a good way to get your tits fixed... a breast doc :shock: :lol: He said most of the fat was gone and what I was dealing with now was glandular gyno (gear induced). He prescribed the ralox, made a plan to run 60 mg ED for 3-6 months. If I still have gyno at the 6 month mark, I basically have to throw in the towel and get the surgery.

I hope the Ralox helps you brother! Best of luck 2 u!

Thanks for sharing. I was careless with my last cycle and ran dbol alone for 5 weeks and didn't even notice it begin to develop, lesson learned the hard way there.

 

[RickRock]

Holy shit! 200! I'd like to do those dosages and I'm probably just being over cautious be of my other prescription medications. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about 4 years ago. I went through a lot to find a combination of meds that stabilized me. I quit drinking and smoking and lost the 50 lbs of fat I was carrying around. I haven't had a drink in over a year or smoked a cigarette since my wife found out she was pregnant. So I really accomplished a lot this year, and I've been so impulsive in the past with different substances. A lot of people with bipolar are afraid to talk about it because people are very judgemental. I have no problem mentioning it bc A. I'm not the only bipolar person on this forum and maybe this will help somebody (feel free to reach out and PM me or whatever if this is something any of you struggle with) B. Bc it took a lot of courage, will power and guts to get to where I am now and I'm here bc you guys are experts in the fitness world.

To tell you the truth... Losing weight, putting on muscle...that's the easy part. That's the best part of my day. When I get to lift, or run, or get on the court and hoop.
So you probably can understand why I am being extra cautious... I know you guys probably aren't doctors. Maybe some of you are. Either way I'm going to list my meds and if anybody sees some huge issue w me upping my doses to 20 mg of GW and 25 mg of MK let me know. Thanks for reading this and I hope that this helps someone else realize that if they struggle w bipolar, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel. It's a dark tunnel...but trust me, there's a light there!

My Meds:
Wellbutrin SR 200 mg 2x per day (antidepressant, great bc there is no weight gain associated, which there often is w antidepressants)

Lamictal 200 mg ( mood stabilizer, also no weight gain)

Vyvanse 70 mg ( long acting amphetamine) - main concern w upping the GW that bw GW and Vyvanse, I'll never sleep

Hydroxyzine 25 mg 1-4 xper day as needed ( I take this for allergies, makes me kind of sleepy, so I try to take at bedtime)

Raloxaphene 60 mg X1 per day for existing gyno, which is almost gone!!!!!!!

So there's my mental stack. With all that said I'm probably still going to up the GW and MK.

****** again if anyone needs help dealing with mental issues or meds I am willing and able to help you!******* Thanks!

Thanks for sharing your experience with us brother, and we truly appreciate your careful approach to everything. With that said, as Dylan pointed out, there are no interaction issues whatsoever with the sarms, and feel free to increase your doses to the ideal doses to run for both the GW and MK. GW is not a stimulant and has no properties of such, so it should have no problem keeping you from sleeping either

 

[transformer24]

Increased yesterday :twisted:

 

[transformer24]

I'm still new to the sarms but I'm liking them as well, so for what it's worth if you're going to up the dose just pay close attention for any unwanted sides that you may be worried about for your condition.

Do you mind sharing your experience with gyno? I have some ralox on the way and am hoping it does the job. I didn't control estrogen on my last cycle and developed a little bit of gyno. I'm finishing up my pct this week and it has shrunk but it's still more than I'm comfortable with.

Looking forward to hearing more about your results

I got gyno about 6 years ago. I worked at a gym where gear was pretty readily available. I was a total idiot and botched the whole fucking thing. I didn't know what I was doing. I got the lump on the right side, got some arimidex which got rid of the lump but I couldn't get enough to get the bitch tits and puffy nips to go away. At that point I was just in a mental shitstorm and said fuck it and pretty much gave up on myself. the bitch tits got worse bc I added fat to the equation. Fast forward to May 2015, I made the decision to get back in shape and lose the weight and be an athlete again. I didn't want to set a bad example for my son and to tell you the truth I couldn't stand what I was looking at in the mirror bc I knew I was better than that. After I lost about 40 lbs (so about 2 weeks ago), I went and saw a breast specialist. I know it sounds kind of funny, but that's a good way to get your tits fixed... a breast doc :shock: :lol: He said most of the fat was gone and what I was dealing with now was glandular gyno (gear induced). He prescribed the ralox, made a plan to run 60 mg ED for 3-6 months. If I still have gyno at the 6 month mark, I basically have to throw in the towel and get the surgery.

I hope the Ralox helps you brother! Best of luck 2 u!

Thanks for sharing. I was careless with my last cycle and ran dbol alone for 5 weeks and didn't even notice it begin to develop, lesson learned the hard way there.

Sorry to hear that bro. I feel your pain. Best way to learn is to experience...sometimes it's a shit experience, but you definitely learn

 

[DylanGemelli]

Holy shit! 200! I'd like to do those dosages and I'm probably just being over cautious be of my other prescription medications. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about 4 years ago. I went through a lot to find a combination of meds that stabilized me. I quit drinking and smoking and lost the 50 lbs of fat I was carrying around. I haven't had a drink in over a year or smoked a cigarette since my wife found out she was pregnant. So I really accomplished a lot this year, and I've been so impulsive in the past with different substances. A lot of people with bipolar are afraid to talk about it because people are very judgemental. I have no problem mentioning it bc A. I'm not the only bipolar person on this forum and maybe this will help somebody (feel free to reach out and PM me or whatever if this is something any of you struggle with) B. Bc it took a lot of courage, will power and guts to get to where I am now and I'm here bc you guys are experts in the fitness world.

To tell you the truth... Losing weight, putting on muscle...that's the easy part. That's the best part of my day. When I get to lift, or run, or get on the court and hoop.
So you probably can understand why I am being extra cautious... I know you guys probably aren't doctors. Maybe some of you are. Either way I'm going to list my meds and if anybody sees some huge issue w me upping my doses to 20 mg of GW and 25 mg of MK let me know. Thanks for reading this and I hope that this helps someone else realize that if they struggle w bipolar, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel. It's a dark tunnel...but trust me, there's a light there!

My Meds:
Wellbutrin SR 200 mg 2x per day (antidepressant, great bc there is no weight gain associated, which there often is w antidepressants)

Lamictal 200 mg ( mood stabilizer, also no weight gain)

Vyvanse 70 mg ( long acting amphetamine) - main concern w upping the GW that bw GW and Vyvanse, I'll never sleep

Hydroxyzine 25 mg 1-4 xper day as needed ( I take this for allergies, makes me kind of sleepy, so I try to take at bedtime)

Raloxaphene 60 mg X1 per day for existing gyno, which is almost gone!!!!!!!

So there's my mental stack. With all that said I'm probably still going to up the GW and MK.

****** again if anyone needs help dealing with mental issues or meds I am willing and able to help you!******* Thanks!

I truly commend you on so many levels... the first being the way you approach and handle your situation... your someone that i have a great deal of respect for as to how you tackle this head on and don't take no for an answer... your beating this regardless and i love that man... truly...

as far as your meds, you have no contradiction with sarms whatsoever and raising the dose would have no adverse effect whatsoever...

how do you like raloxfene? im doing some writeups and videos on it soon... pure essence will be carrying that in their new product list soon!

Thanks bro! That means a lot.

Raloxaphene- It has done nothing but good for me thus far. I don't have a whole lot to compare it to, but I can tell you that my doc was kind of debating out loud what he should give me bw raloxifene (evista) and tamoxifen (nolvadex). The way he explained it to me was that the better option would be to go with the ralox bc it would be just as effective or even more effective with less side effects. I don't really have any experience with nolva... but as far as ralox goes, it has been of great help in a short amount of time. Ralox= g2g

**Anyone reading this who doesn't know, Raloxifene is a SERM like Nolvadex is a SERM. That's a selective estrogen receptor modulator. This means it is an antagonist to estrogen in the areas that cause gyno for instance and an agonist to estrogen in areas like your bones. It is selective in its action. Clomid is another example.

-Pretty sure that's accurate... not an expert but thats my understanding with limited experience

More and more are trying and switching to raloxifene on a daily basis... it does carry the same benefits with far less side effects and has shown in so many instances to be MORE effective... THANK YOU for sharing your experience with everyone

 

[transformer24]

No doubt. Anytime.

 

[SpikedEggnog]

Holy shit! 200! I'd like to do those dosages and I'm probably just being over cautious be of my other prescription medications. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about 4 years ago. I went through a lot to find a combination of meds that stabilized me. I quit drinking and smoking and lost the 50 lbs of fat I was carrying around. I haven't had a drink in over a year or smoked a cigarette since my wife found out she was pregnant. So I really accomplished a lot this year, and I've been so impulsive in the past with different substances. A lot of people with bipolar are afraid to talk about it because people are very judgemental. I have no problem mentioning it bc A. I'm not the only bipolar person on this forum and maybe this will help somebody (feel free to reach out and PM me or whatever if this is something any of you struggle with) B. Bc it took a lot of courage, will power and guts to get to where I am now and I'm here bc you guys are experts in the fitness world.

To tell you the truth... Losing weight, putting on muscle...that's the easy part. That's the best part of my day. When I get to lift, or run, or get on the court and hoop.
So you probably can understand why I am being extra cautious... I know you guys probably aren't doctors. Maybe some of you are. Either way I'm going to list my meds and if anybody sees some huge issue w me upping my doses to 20 mg of GW and 25 mg of MK let me know. Thanks for reading this and I hope that this helps someone else realize that if they struggle w bipolar, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel. It's a dark tunnel...but trust me, there's a light there!

My Meds:
Wellbutrin SR 200 mg 2x per day (antidepressant, great bc there is no weight gain associated, which there often is w antidepressants)

Lamictal 200 mg ( mood stabilizer, also no weight gain)

Vyvanse 70 mg ( long acting amphetamine) - main concern w upping the GW that bw GW and Vyvanse, I'll never sleep

Hydroxyzine 25 mg 1-4 xper day as needed ( I take this for allergies, makes me kind of sleepy, so I try to take at bedtime)

Raloxaphene 60 mg X1 per day for existing gyno, which is almost gone!!!!!!!

So there's my mental stack. With all that said I'm probably still going to up the GW and MK.

****** again if anyone needs help dealing with mental issues or meds I am willing and able to help you!******* Thanks!

I truly commend you on so many levels... the first being the way you approach and handle your situation... your someone that i have a great deal of respect for as to how you tackle this head on and don't take no for an answer... your beating this regardless and i love that man... truly...

as far as your meds, you have no contradiction with sarms whatsoever and raising the dose would have no adverse effect whatsoever...

how do you like raloxfene? im doing some writeups and videos on it soon... pure essence will be carrying that in their new product list soon!

Thanks bro! That means a lot.

Raloxaphene- It has done nothing but good for me thus far. I don't have a whole lot to compare it to, but I can tell you that my doc was kind of debating out loud what he should give me bw raloxifene (evista) and tamoxifen (nolvadex). The way he explained it to me was that the better option would be to go with the ralox bc it would be just as effective or even more effective with less side effects. I don't really have any experience with nolva... but as far as ralox goes, it has been of great help in a short amount of time. Ralox= g2g

**Anyone reading this who doesn't know, Raloxifene is a SERM like Nolvadex is a SERM. That's a selective estrogen receptor modulator. This means it is an antagonist to estrogen in the areas that cause gyno for instance and an agonist to estrogen in areas like your bones. It is selective in its action. Clomid is another example.

-Pretty sure that's accurate... not an expert but thats my understanding with limited experience

More and more are trying and switching to raloxifene on a daily basis... it does carry the same benefits with far less side effects and has shown in so many instances to be MORE effective... THANK YOU for sharing your experience with everyone

dude you said pureessence will be carrying Ralox soon? Ralox was part of the anti gyno protocol (older thread). i believe it was ralox, aromasin, and caber.

 

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Holy shit! 200! I'd like to do those dosages and I'm probably just being over cautious be of my other prescription medications. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder about 4 years ago. I went through a lot to find a combination of meds that stabilized me. I quit drinking and smoking and lost the 50 lbs of fat I was carrying around. I haven't had a drink in over a year or smoked a cigarette since my wife found out she was pregnant. So I really accomplished a lot this year, and I've been so impulsive in the past with different substances. A lot of people with bipolar are afraid to talk about it because people are very judgemental. I have no problem mentioning it bc A. I'm not the only bipolar person on this forum and maybe this will help somebody (feel free to reach out and PM me or whatever if this is something any of you struggle with) B. Bc it took a lot of courage, will power and guts to get to where I am now and I'm here bc you guys are experts in the fitness world.

To tell you the truth... Losing weight, putting on muscle...that's the easy part. That's the best part of my day. When I get to lift, or run, or get on the court and hoop.
So you probably can understand why I am being extra cautious... I know you guys probably aren't doctors. Maybe some of you are. Either way I'm going to list my meds and if anybody sees some huge issue w me upping my doses to 20 mg of GW and 25 mg of MK let me know. Thanks for reading this and I hope that this helps someone else realize that if they struggle w bipolar, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel. It's a dark tunnel...but trust me, there's a light there!

My Meds:
Wellbutrin SR 200 mg 2x per day (antidepressant, great bc there is no weight gain associated, which there often is w antidepressants)

Lamictal 200 mg ( mood stabilizer, also no weight gain)

Vyvanse 70 mg ( long acting amphetamine) - main concern w upping the GW that bw GW and Vyvanse, I'll never sleep

Hydroxyzine 25 mg 1-4 xper day as needed ( I take this for allergies, makes me kind of sleepy, so I try to take at bedtime)

Raloxaphene 60 mg X1 per day for existing gyno, which is almost gone!!!!!!!

So there's my mental stack. With all that said I'm probably still going to up the GW and MK.

****** again if anyone needs help dealing with mental issues or meds I am willing and able to help you!******* Thanks!

I truly commend you on so many levels... the first being the way you approach and handle your situation... your someone that i have a great deal of respect for as to how you tackle this head on and don't take no for an answer... your beating this regardless and i love that man... truly...

as far as your meds, you have no contradiction with sarms whatsoever and raising the dose would have no adverse effect whatsoever...

how do you like raloxfene? im doing some writeups and videos on it soon... pure essence will be carrying that in their new product list soon!

Thanks bro! That means a lot.

Raloxaphene- It has done nothing but good for me thus far. I don't have a whole lot to compare it to, but I can tell you that my doc was kind of debating out loud what he should give me bw raloxifene (evista) and tamoxifen (nolvadex). The way he explained it to me was that the better option would be to go with the ralox bc it would be just as effective or even more effective with less side effects. I don't really have any experience with nolva... but as far as ralox goes, it has been of great help in a short amount of time. Ralox= g2g

**Anyone reading this who doesn't know, Raloxifene is a SERM like Nolvadex is a SERM. That's a selective estrogen receptor modulator. This means it is an antagonist to estrogen in the areas that cause gyno for instance and an agonist to estrogen in areas like your bones. It is selective in its action. Clomid is another example.

-Pretty sure that's accurate... not an expert but thats my understanding with limited experience

More and more are trying and switching to raloxifene on a daily basis... it does carry the same benefits with far less side effects and has shown in so many instances to be MORE effective... THANK YOU for sharing your experience with everyone

dude you said pureessence will be carrying Ralox soon? Ralox was part of the anti gyno protocol (older thread). i believe it was ralox, aromasin, and caber.

yes, absolutely... it is part of the new lineup as is aromasin!