PCT with Cardarine?

[Duckets]

Current cycle (week8 current)
1-6 Tbol 30mgs
1-6 Anavar 50 mgs
3-8 Test e300 (Sun & Weds)
5’10” - 174.5 - 10%<BF - 36y.o.

(I waited till week 3 bc I wanted to see how my body felt the first couple weeks with Tbol - first time with Tbol)

Question: Would Nolva & Cardarine be a sufficient enough PCT since the Tbol was stopped in week 5 bc of AWFUL side effects from stacking orals like an idiot. Also, should I just run test for another 4 weeks since responding VERY WELL & gains are GREAT? I’m sure I’ll get bashed for the oral stacking ... here we go! Thanks for any responses fellas!

 

[P0N]

You should run a full 6 week PCT with nolva and clomid both, and using cardarine to control cortisol levels.

 

[Duckets]

You should run a full 6 week PCT with nolva and clomid both, and using cardarine to control cortisol levels.

Thank you for responding, so in that case should I run the test for another 4 weeks since it’ll be a solid pct?

 

[DylanGemelli]

no thats not even close to a sufficient pct... test for that short of time on a long ester also makes no sense whatsoever? what are you doing here man? do you have any idea what you are doing? staggering a long ester test with orals? i mean, im lost as to what you are doing here but it clearly shows you have no idea and thats a dangerous thing brother..

 

[P0N]

Thank you for responding, so in that case should I run the test for another 4 weeks since it’ll be a solid pct?

Yes, I would run the test for full 10 to 12 weeks to get the benefit out of it. Also , as Dylan pointed out, you shouldn't have staggered the orals, especially with a long ester testosterone.

 

[Duckets]

Yes, I would run the test for full 10 to 12 weeks to get the benefit out of it. Also , as Dylan pointed out, you shouldn't have staggered the orals, especially with a long ester testosterone.

Thank you, would you mind elaborating why using a longer ester with orals is not a good idea?? Would like to learn the reasoning behind it - unfortunately I had some bad information from a “trusted guy” ... I take full responsibility obviously but am very curious to hear the downfalls to this and maybe some others would like to know too!! Appreciate it!!

 

[Duckets]

no thats not even close to a sufficient pct... test for that short of time on a long ester also makes no sense whatsoever? what are you doing here man? do you have any idea what you are doing? staggering a long ester test with orals? i mean, im lost as to what you are doing here but it clearly shows you have no idea and thats a dangerous thing brother..

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[P0N]

Thank you, would you mind elaborating why using a longer ester with orals is not a good idea?? Would like to learn the reasoning behind it - unfortunately I had some bad information from a “trusted guy” ... I take full responsibility obviously but am very curious to hear the downfalls to this and maybe some others would like to know too!! Appreciate it!!

It takes 4 to 6 weeks for the long ester to get up to peak concentrations, as opposed to something like test prop which is almost immediate. This means the orals shut your natural test down, which is a hindrance to begin with, but when you stopped them and began the long ester test, you were losing your gains from the orals due to a lack of test levels in you.

 

[DylanGemelli]

test e is a long ester... it needs to be ran a minimum of 10 weeks but that is even too short in all honesty.. what you did makes absolutely no sense whatsoever

 

[RUCingdsgainz]

This cycle is a mess 5 weeks of Test might as well not even used it at all lol

 

[RUCingdsgainz]

This cycle is a mess 5 weeks of Test might as well not even used it at all lol