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Puoribannednutrition

New here. Cycle input, critique, and help.

JEReem

New member
Member
38 yrs
6’1”
220 pounds on trt dose
Been as heavy as 255 at 12%
Low as 220 at 6%
Range from an honest 6%-12% bf
Former professional athlete
18 year cycle experience with multiple compounds.

I was brought here because I stumbled upon one of Dylan’s videos on YouTube. Instantly liked the guy and he’s changed my mind on some things. So I’m here. I have an open mind and if I have a stupid thought, call me out and help me please.

I’m about to go to Asia for 3 months and have a good source there. But this cycle I was thinking of pushing to 20 weeks because of the esters. My goals are lean quality dense muscle, minimum to no sexual side effects(if not improved), basically a recomp.
My diet is most important and it will be no issue. I’m surrounded by healthy options and it is a area in Asia where the entire street is gym after gym, restaurant after restaurant.
I’m looking at 4000-4500 calories daily.
Mostly solid food. Exception is post workout shake (2) (because I’ll train twice daily. Once weights and once boxing or mma) with Whey Isolate, Sweet Potato powder and Waxymaize.

My protein will come from lean beef, chicken, salmon, eggs, whey isolate.
Complex carbs from mostly sweet potatoes, rice, pasta, oats(no sauce)
Missed veggies for my veggie source
Only high glycemic carbs are immediately post workout.
Fats from the salmon, avocado, peanut butter (sparingly)

These are the compounds I’m strongly considering but having a hard time narrowing it down.
(Test E)-As a base clearly. I want to go 500mg/week but will probably get yelled at by Dylan. If 350 or 400 will give the exact same benefit without the sides of 500 I can and will be talked into dropping.
(Eq)-For the endurance, lean and long sustained quality gains.
(Primobolan)-For long quality gains. I’ve never used it and really want to. Not sure if it’s too redundant with the eq.
(Masteron)-was wanting to run the Enanthate version for less pinning. Looking for hardness and sex drive boost. I’m debating whether Proviron could be an alternate and the pros and cons of each outside of them being oral/injectibles. Not sure how long Proviron could be run safely since it’s an oral for the duration of the cycle. And at what amount.
(Winstrol Tabs)- They work amazing for me.
Was thinking 4 weeks on/4 weeks off for the duration of the cycle. I was preferring T-bol(for the size)but I don’t think there will be any available.

-Will be running Aromasin at 12.5 every other day
-I’ve played with Caber even without a 19 nor and loved the sexual side effects at 0.25 (2x week).
-T4. I had read this is needed or works well with Hgh. I have no idea if this is true but wanted input. With the Hgh I will be running
5 i.u. 5x weekly split into (2) 2.5 i.u injections daily. A.M. and afternoon.

So basically....
Test E-500mg/week (1-20)
Mast E-800mg/week (1-20)
Primobolan-800mg/week (1-20)
Eq-800mg/week (1-20)
Aromasin-12.5mg EOD (1-20)
T4-100mcg/day (1-20)
Hgh-5 i.u. Day 5on2off (1-20) Minimum

Should I or does it make sense to add a low dose of Winstrol tabs
Weeks 1-4/9-12/17-20???? Or is this overkill?

Pct will be go back on trt with Aromasin for equal amount of time off.

Help me. Dosing. Duration. Compounds. And tell me where I’m off. I’ll listen.
 
I really like the cycle plan for your goals and like the dosages you chose. One thing i dont like is T4 being in there. I'm not a fan of anyone messing with or using thyroid drugs unless you have a prescription because of deficiency. It's broscience that it's needed with gh use. I don't see a problem using winstrol the last 6 weeks of the cycle at 50mg ed
 
Thanks for the input. I know nothing about the T4 other than what I’ve read but wanted additional input before I implemented.
 
What is the longest appropriate time to run proviron? Would it be a better choice here than the Mast E? Or stick with the mast?
 
i run proviron generally 3-4 months at a time... i understand why you are using t4 with hgh and i am with rick when i dont like messing with thyroid but it is suitable with hgh and your dose is correct so i dont have an issue with that either... i personally would run winstrol on the back end of your cycle the last 6 weeks as well... i use mast and proviron together often and love it.. if you use winstrol, MAKE SURE you have full organ protection... here is a link to my new ORGAN ST product... https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
 
Thanks greatly Dylan. You guys have been a big help and I’ll keep you posted on specific results and updates.
 
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