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My thread was originally posted under a guest name so I am re-posting because of my inability to reply to messages.
I'm a Crossfit athlete but with that I want to say that our competition training is not like that of your traditional "crossfit" training programs. We do a lot of heavy lifting along with your traditional metcons as well. We also know the importance of incorporating some isometric movements as well. Again, I am not your typical “CrossFitter” who only believes in the way of Crossfit. I am a firm believer in the methodology, however, I am not so stubborn that I see bodybuilding or any other way of training as inferior to mine. Anyways I've been looking into getting into a cycle to try and put on a little more weight, 8-10lbs and I really want to increase my endurance. I have been looking at test and looking at a some Sarms as well. Keep in mind I've never done a cycle except a prohormone a few years back. My goal for this cycle are: gain lean body mass (about 10-12 pounds but not so fast that it’s obvious that I am on something), and I want to increase my VO2 max through the roof. With the 10 lbs I would like to gain, I would like to be at 185-190 after the cycle is over.
Here is my layout for a test cycle:
Weeks
1-12 Test E 175mg (2x wk) (350mg wk)
1-12 Cardarine 20mg (ED)
1-12 HCG 250iu (E4D)
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg (EOD)
13-14 HCG 500iu (ED for 10 days)
PCT
14-17 Aromasin 12.5/12.5/7.5/7.5 (EOD)
14-18 Clomid 50/50/25/25/12.5 (ED)
14-18 Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/10 (ED)
I want to know what you think. Can I honestly get 8-10 lbs from Sarms and a lot of endurance or should I look into my original cycle? Also, I have to tell you I am quite nervous about test, I have done a lot of research and I feel like I have the right plan as far as a pct goes into getting back natural again after a cycle or 2.
Here are my stats and I also wanted to throw in my current program regimen from the following week so you guys could get an idea of what kind of training I’m in.
24
5"11
178
about 7% bf off calipers
*Yes I know 178 is pretty light. I am a type 1 diabetic. I eat clean and weigh and measure everything I eat. I follow the zone diet as I have found that is the best way to control my diabetes. I would say my lifts are decent with the weight I am at (Clean- 285# Clean and Jerk- 265# Snatch- 220# Backsquat- 365# (Parallel if not just below), Deadlift- 430#).
Monday:
Weightlifting
1) Drop Snatch + Snatch Balance 45%x2, 50%x2, 55%x2, 60%x1, 65%x1
2) Snatch Low Liftoff + Snatch High Liftoff + Snatch 65%x1x6
3) Tall Jerk 35%x3, 40%x2, 45%x1x4
4) Behind-The-Neck Jerk 70%x1x8 EMOM
Sport
As Far As Possible in 10 minutes:
3 Kettlebell Snatch, 24kg/16kg, left arm
3 Kettlebell Snatch, 24kg/16kg, right arm
12 Double Unders
6 Kettlebell Snatch, left arm
6 Kettlebell Snatch, right arm
24 Double Unders
9 Kettlebell Snatch, left arm
9 Kettlebell Snatch, right arm
36 Double Unders
etc
Gymnastics
Accumulate 100 Hollow Rocks
Tuesday:
Strength
1) Back Squat 10 @ 7, 10 @ 8, 10 @ 9, plus one down set (load drop -10%)
2) Push Press 10 @ 7, 10 @ 8, 10 @ 9, plus one down set (load drop -10%)
3) Deficit Deadlift 6 @ 6, 6 @ 7, 6 @ 8, plus three down sets (repeat)
4) Dip Belt Squat 3 x 2 reps from failure, using a weight that nets you 8-12 reps
5) Chest Supported Dumbbell Row, 3 x 2 reps from failure, using a weight that nets you 8-12 reps
Aerobic Development
Row 3 x 10 minutes @ 8-9, rest 3 minutes between efforts
Strength Accessory
1) Bicep Curls 3×10-12
2) Overhead Triceps Extensions 3×10-12
3) Rear Delt Flyes 3×10-12
Wednesday:
Weightlifting
1) Tall Snatch + Muscle Snatch 40%x1x2, 45%x1, 50%x1, 55%x1
2) No Hands/No Feet Snatch 60%x1x8 EMOM
3) Clean from Hip 55%x2, 60%x2, 65%x1, 70%x1, 75%x1
4) Clean Low Liftoff + Clean High Liftoff + Clean 65%x1x5
Gymnastics
Accumulate 120 seconds in Chest-to-Wall Handstand
Sport
7 Rounds For Time:
7 Front Squats, 185#/125#
7 Strict Chest-to-Bar Pullups
Thursday:
Aerobic Development
Run 60 minutes @ 6 + 8x100m @ 8
Friday:
Weightlifting
1) Snatch from Hip 55%x2, 60%x2, 65%x1, 70%x1, 75%x1
2) Snatch 80%x1x8
3) Squat Jerk + Jerk 45%x(2+1), 50%x(2+1), 55%x(2+1), 60%x(2+1), 65%x(2+1)
4) Clean & Jerk 80%x1x6
Sport
For Time:
100 Burpees
At the beginning of every minute, starting with 0:00, perform 5 power snatches, 95#/65#.
Gymnastics
3 x 10 V-Ups + 20 Tuck-Ups + 30 Hollow Rocks
Saturday:
Strength
1) Deadlift 8 @ 7, 8 @ 8, 8 @ 9, plus one down set (load drop -15%)
2) Back Squat 4×10, 90% of this week’s 10 @ 9
3) Dumbbell Press 3×10
4) Supine Grip Barbell Row 3×10
Aerobic Development
Airdyne 30 minutes max calories
Strength Accessory
1) Front Delt Raise 3×10-12
2) Lateral Delt Raise 3×10-12
3) Rear Delt Flyes 3×10-12
Sunday:
Full Rest Day
Thanks guys
I'm a Crossfit athlete but with that I want to say that our competition training is not like that of your traditional "crossfit" training programs. We do a lot of heavy lifting along with your traditional metcons as well. We also know the importance of incorporating some isometric movements as well. Again, I am not your typical “CrossFitter” who only believes in the way of Crossfit. I am a firm believer in the methodology, however, I am not so stubborn that I see bodybuilding or any other way of training as inferior to mine. Anyways I've been looking into getting into a cycle to try and put on a little more weight, 8-10lbs and I really want to increase my endurance. I have been looking at test and looking at a some Sarms as well. Keep in mind I've never done a cycle except a prohormone a few years back. My goal for this cycle are: gain lean body mass (about 10-12 pounds but not so fast that it’s obvious that I am on something), and I want to increase my VO2 max through the roof. With the 10 lbs I would like to gain, I would like to be at 185-190 after the cycle is over.
Here is my layout for a test cycle:
Weeks
1-12 Test E 175mg (2x wk) (350mg wk)
1-12 Cardarine 20mg (ED)
1-12 HCG 250iu (E4D)
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg (EOD)
13-14 HCG 500iu (ED for 10 days)
PCT
14-17 Aromasin 12.5/12.5/7.5/7.5 (EOD)
14-18 Clomid 50/50/25/25/12.5 (ED)
14-18 Nolvadex 40/20/20/20/10 (ED)
I want to know what you think. Can I honestly get 8-10 lbs from Sarms and a lot of endurance or should I look into my original cycle? Also, I have to tell you I am quite nervous about test, I have done a lot of research and I feel like I have the right plan as far as a pct goes into getting back natural again after a cycle or 2.
Here are my stats and I also wanted to throw in my current program regimen from the following week so you guys could get an idea of what kind of training I’m in.
24
5"11
178
about 7% bf off calipers
*Yes I know 178 is pretty light. I am a type 1 diabetic. I eat clean and weigh and measure everything I eat. I follow the zone diet as I have found that is the best way to control my diabetes. I would say my lifts are decent with the weight I am at (Clean- 285# Clean and Jerk- 265# Snatch- 220# Backsquat- 365# (Parallel if not just below), Deadlift- 430#).
Monday:
Weightlifting
1) Drop Snatch + Snatch Balance 45%x2, 50%x2, 55%x2, 60%x1, 65%x1
2) Snatch Low Liftoff + Snatch High Liftoff + Snatch 65%x1x6
3) Tall Jerk 35%x3, 40%x2, 45%x1x4
4) Behind-The-Neck Jerk 70%x1x8 EMOM
Sport
As Far As Possible in 10 minutes:
3 Kettlebell Snatch, 24kg/16kg, left arm
3 Kettlebell Snatch, 24kg/16kg, right arm
12 Double Unders
6 Kettlebell Snatch, left arm
6 Kettlebell Snatch, right arm
24 Double Unders
9 Kettlebell Snatch, left arm
9 Kettlebell Snatch, right arm
36 Double Unders
etc
Gymnastics
Accumulate 100 Hollow Rocks
Tuesday:
Strength
1) Back Squat 10 @ 7, 10 @ 8, 10 @ 9, plus one down set (load drop -10%)
2) Push Press 10 @ 7, 10 @ 8, 10 @ 9, plus one down set (load drop -10%)
3) Deficit Deadlift 6 @ 6, 6 @ 7, 6 @ 8, plus three down sets (repeat)
4) Dip Belt Squat 3 x 2 reps from failure, using a weight that nets you 8-12 reps
5) Chest Supported Dumbbell Row, 3 x 2 reps from failure, using a weight that nets you 8-12 reps
Aerobic Development
Row 3 x 10 minutes @ 8-9, rest 3 minutes between efforts
Strength Accessory
1) Bicep Curls 3×10-12
2) Overhead Triceps Extensions 3×10-12
3) Rear Delt Flyes 3×10-12
Wednesday:
Weightlifting
1) Tall Snatch + Muscle Snatch 40%x1x2, 45%x1, 50%x1, 55%x1
2) No Hands/No Feet Snatch 60%x1x8 EMOM
3) Clean from Hip 55%x2, 60%x2, 65%x1, 70%x1, 75%x1
4) Clean Low Liftoff + Clean High Liftoff + Clean 65%x1x5
Gymnastics
Accumulate 120 seconds in Chest-to-Wall Handstand
Sport
7 Rounds For Time:
7 Front Squats, 185#/125#
7 Strict Chest-to-Bar Pullups
Thursday:
Aerobic Development
Run 60 minutes @ 6 + 8x100m @ 8
Friday:
Weightlifting
1) Snatch from Hip 55%x2, 60%x2, 65%x1, 70%x1, 75%x1
2) Snatch 80%x1x8
3) Squat Jerk + Jerk 45%x(2+1), 50%x(2+1), 55%x(2+1), 60%x(2+1), 65%x(2+1)
4) Clean & Jerk 80%x1x6
Sport
For Time:
100 Burpees
At the beginning of every minute, starting with 0:00, perform 5 power snatches, 95#/65#.
Gymnastics
3 x 10 V-Ups + 20 Tuck-Ups + 30 Hollow Rocks
Saturday:
Strength
1) Deadlift 8 @ 7, 8 @ 8, 8 @ 9, plus one down set (load drop -15%)
2) Back Squat 4×10, 90% of this week’s 10 @ 9
3) Dumbbell Press 3×10
4) Supine Grip Barbell Row 3×10
Aerobic Development
Airdyne 30 minutes max calories
Strength Accessory
1) Front Delt Raise 3×10-12
2) Lateral Delt Raise 3×10-12
3) Rear Delt Flyes 3×10-12
Sunday:
Full Rest Day
Thanks guys
