My doc is stupid and opinion on bloods

[21infantry]

So it would be useless to pair the gel patches with oil?

Well I don't know about useless, that is more a technical question best answered by Dylan.

 

[BigJay23]

Well I don't know about useless, that is more a technical question best answered by Dylan.

Hopefully he'll bless me with his presence soon lol

 

[NJBro]

Haha that's what I'm doing I'm filling it and saving it[emoji57]

Bro Im telling ya there aint nothing smooooooooth like Watson Cyp!!!! 200 mg per ML all day!!!! I love my Dr. LOL

 

[BigJay23]

Bro Im telling ya there aint nothing smooooooooth like Watson Cyp!!!! 200 mg per ML all day!!!! I love my Dr. LOL

It's the gel packs though not sure if I should use it brother

 

[NJBro]

Well I don't know about useless, that is more a technical question best answered by Dylan.

It might be in my head but I still have some gels and use them once in a while pre work out (about 2 hrs before).
I like it gives me a boost.

 

[Jake]

Your BUN is only 19 and creatine is 16... I don't see where she's getting that your kidneys are f'ed lol.

Also fucked kidneys produce fucked Na and K results. ..sodium, potassium

 

[BigJay23]

It might be in my head but I still have some gels and use them once in a while pre work out (about 2 hrs before).
I like it gives me a boost.

Only on cycle obv right

 

[BigJay23]

Also fucked kidneys produce fucked Na and K results. ..sodium, potassium

Really? Probably all that terrakyi chicken lol

 

[NJBro]

It's the gel packs though not sure if I should use it brother

Yea you just need to do the math. If your saving them for a run. You need to know what is actually absorbed through the skin and adjust the dose. (Total number of packs you use)

I was my Dr first TRT case and basically taught her how to do it. We sat at her computer I told her what I needed and she checked the info. LOL
She realized I knew what I was talking about and said she was going to trust me on this.
When we were done she asked me to try the gels first. I did but they are a pain cant touch the wife until it dries. Have to be careful not to expose kids to the skin the gel is on.
So I asked for the oil and she wrote the script. Been on a test cyp since.

 

[NJBro]

Only on cycle obv right

No Im on TRT so I will do it for a boost every once in a while. Kind like running test no ester.

 

[Jake]

Really? Probably all that terrakyi chicken lol

no you misunderstand.Your results are within range ,so your kidney function is fine

 

[BigJay23]

no you misunderstand.Your results are within range ,so your kidney function is fine

Oh got ya thanks man

 

[RickRock]

Bro no way am I thinking about TRT this is during pct
I'm only a week and a half into clomid and daa and I feel much better already..

That's what I thought bro. Why would you get bloods that early, knowing you haven't made a recovery? What is the point of the bloods?


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[RickRock]

So it would be useless to pair the gel patches with oil?

I wouldn't use them if it were me. They are junk and inconsistent with dosing....poor bioavailability and a high conversion rate to estrogen. I would only inject my test.

The gels are a moneymaking marketing ploy by big Pharma, and that's pretty much it. Cost way more than injectable oils and far less effective


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[BigJay23]

That's what I thought bro. Why would you get bloods that early, knowing you haven't made a recovery? What is the point of the bloods?


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Pre and post bloods compare everything and that's including test want to see how everything improves

 

[jp1957]

not for only a few weeks, 4 weeks blood work minimum so see any real changes.

 

[Taurus]

I wouldn't use them if it were me. They are junk and inconsistent with dosing....poor bioavailability and a high conversion rate to estrogen. I would only inject my test.

The gels are a moneymaking marketing ploy by big Pharma, and that's pretty much it. Cost way more than injectable oils and far less effective
I agree 100% with this. Androgel is ridiculously expensive, big pharma is making a killing on it. The only reason the gel is popular with most people is because they are uneducated/afraid of injecting themselves. And if they go in for weekly injections at the Dr office, that is costly. But most docs are pushing the gel hard, even though it's inferior for most people. I'm wondering what kind of kickbacks they're getting?

 

[RickRock]

I wouldn't use them if it were me. They are junk and inconsistent with dosing....poor bioavailability and a high conversion rate to estrogen. I would only inject my test.

The gels are a moneymaking marketing ploy by big Pharma, and that's pretty much it. Cost way more than injectable oils and far less effective
I agree 100% with this. Androgel is ridiculously expensive, big pharma is making a killing on it. The only reason the gel is popular with most people is because they are uneducated/afraid of injecting themselves. And if they go in for weekly injections at the Dr office, that is costly. But most docs are pushing the gel hard, even though it's inferior for most people. I'm wondering what kind of kickbacks they're getting?

I can tell you with absolute certainty they are getting kickbacks, and doctors themselves get their own fair share from sales. I have a little insider information, since my brother is a doctor. He's told me about how he makes money off of certain things he prescribes, which is very consistent with what these docs are doing prescribing gels for TRT


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[BigJay23]

Yea you just need to do the math. If your saving them for a run. You need to know what is actually absorbed through the skin and adjust the dose. (Total number of packs you use)

I was my Dr first TRT case and basically taught her how to do it. We sat at her computer I told her what I needed and she checked the info. LOL
She realized I knew what I was talking about and said she was going to trust me on this.
When we were done she asked me to try the gels first. I did but they are a pain cant touch the wife until it dries. Have to be careful not to expose kids to the skin the gel is on.
So I asked for the oil and she wrote the script. Been on a test cyp since.

Your right I will look into this

 

[BigJay23]

I can tell you with absolute certainty they are getting kickbacks, and doctors themselves get their own fair share from sales. I have a little insider information, since my brother is a doctor. He's told me about how he makes money off of certain things he prescribes, which is very consistent with what these docs are doing prescribing gels for TRT


(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

Yea I asked for injections and she said she didn't have any to prescribe? and gave me these patches instead